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Talking ECUTEK at Tdi north

Hi guys, forgive me if this isn't in the correct section wasn't sure where to post it.
I just want to give a big thumbs up to Paul and all the guys at TDI north. Yesterday I took my civic (fn2) type r in for a Ecutek custom map. The services was top class, willing to answer any questions I had and talk me through the software. I am pleased to say the car has totally transformed. First of the custom map. I have basic breather mods a Tegiwa induction kit with cold air feed and a Miltek cat back. Now with the custom map the car feels less boggy. It was no slouch previously but it just seems to pick up better. It also feels much stronger up top. compared to what it was like it almost feels like it has a dual stage vtec. It changes over at 5000rpm and you feel it but then it seems to have another surge around 6500. also at higher rpm if you let of the throttle it does not judder. What I used to find sometimes it would be abit jerky coming of the throttle when higher up. Nothing majorly annoying just overall smoother and better to drive daily. I am also getting slightly better mpg now it seams. Mabe a little early to judge fully but the early signs are good. My previous average was around 23 mpg now i seem to be averaging 25/26. So it is ticking all the boxes. Next onto the features. Where do I start. Ok adjustable launch control. In map 2 at a stop. Vsa has to be turned off cruise arm clicked in. Stamp the throttle keep your foot flat and you can adjust the revs from down as low as I think 3000rpm and bump it up to 7000rpm If you do this it sounds absolutely epic like an army of trumpets at full chat. Obviously you are not going to launch at that sort of rpm but its a great party piece. Anyway bring it back down to 3000 lift the clutch up and bang. Slight wheelspin and then it really hooks up well, great feature. Next onto flat foot shifting. Ive got to admit it baffled me at first. Ive been driving for almost 8 years and I've never kept the accelerator flat down when changing gears, after all why would I? But thats exactly what you do. It flies through the gears like a modern performance automatic car. You do have to keep your foot flat though cos even lifting of slightly dumps the clutch an you look very silly. Ive got the hang of it now and it is fantastic. Changes are super fast. Next traction control. I want to try explain how well this works. Paul at Tdi tried to explain to me all the technical side, some of it I got, some of it was lost on me. What he did do is he didn't implement the traction control at first. He said go take it for a little spin and tell me what you think. So I took it out immediately noticing the much stronger top end power. But really struggling for grip in first gear. My front tyres are getting low anyway and if there is any amount of water on the road I usually can't go flat footed on the accelerator in first gear as the wheels just spin up. This was immediately apparent. after a short test I come back still pleased but then he put the traction control on and said go take it out again. So I retraced my steps to the same bit of road I stamped the throttle and to my surprise no wheelsman. Flat in first flat in second then realised I had to calm down bit I was smiling from ear to ear. The traction I was getting was like I've never had before. Now I'm not going to say it will not wheelsman at all because occasionally I had little spins but it seems to spin slightly then rectify itself an hook up to the road really quickly. Previously it would just spin and spin and I would have to back of the throttle to regain traction. I come back with the biggest smile on my face and Paul was just laughing. He said Ecutek has had 6 months with the fn2 and thats where its got. He was just as excited as I was. Its a serious bit of kit. Another feature I have is downshift blip. Lets say you are approaching a corner you are in third you want to drop down to second so you apply the brakes and drop down. If you just tap the brakes and change down, the revs blip to a level matching your speed and you can instantly get back on the accelerator. Its a feature I've used the least so far but still a great one at that. The sky really is the limit with this software. now understanding that I won't want to blip during gear changes every day and won't always want flat foot shifting. Paul has kindly implemented map 1. the custom map but with none of the features enabled then I can Switch to other maps that have the features. I even have a map that I can engage and the engine won't start. When starting the vehicle and the car will not start until you disengage the map a certain way. Im going to get into the habit of using that every night as there has been fair few car thefts around my area. I didn't even Know Paul was going to include it but he was kind enough to.
so the figures. Im not one to be hung up on figures its more about how the car feels and I am loving it. Having said that the car made 224BHP and 164LBFT. Apparently thats quite high for what mods I have. I was told where the car drops of at the end on the dyne sheet If I was to get the RRC inlet mani from the fd2 I could see potentially another 4/5 bhp at peak power. The dyne charts point towards this. So now I am considering it for the future. I would just like to finish by saying anybody with an fn2 If you can afford it get this software get the features. particularly flat foot shifting and traction control. My time at TDI was great and paul has worked wonder with my car.
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Sounds good mate and nice figures from those mods, I prefer to heel toe myself but have always been interested how the blip downshift feels. Also heard good things about the improved traction control

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Thanks man. I'm massively impressed and yea as I was getting send I thought I should have structured that better haha 🙈
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Sounds great, and you are making good power there. Mine made the same power and torque thereabouts but needed the addition of a Tegiwa exhaust manifold. Must have been my winter tyres bringing it down

EcuTek certainly seems to be the right direction for newcomers to ecu mapping. I'm certainly grateful as it has forced Hondata's hand into developing their FlashPro further.
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Sounds great, and you are making good power there. Mine made the same power and torque thereabouts but needed the addition of a Tegiwa exhaust manifold. Must have been my winter tyres bringing it down

EcuTek certainly seems to be the right direction for newcomers to ecu mapping. I'm certainly grateful as it has forced Hondata's hand into developing their FlashPro further.
I don't want to swap mani just can't be bothered having to mess around with mots. However as explained to me at tdi get the rrc it's a bolt on won't effect my mot and could see good gains even further. Just don't no if its worth it. What mods + figures are you currently running mate?
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I don't want to swap mani just can't be bothered having to mess around with mots. However as explained to me at tdi get the rrc it's a bolt on won't effect my mot and could see good gains even further. Just don't no if its worth it. What mods + figures are you currently running mate?
They wont be wrong, some of the stronger engines out of the factory have responded well to intake modifications. An RRC intake manifold and the FD2 throttle body would add up quite nicely. The gains you get from a decat exhaust manifold are mostly mid range grunt.

I was at 221 bhp / 164 lb ft, that was with a CPL Racing CAI, Tegiwa exhaust manifold and Milltek non-res catback. I was told my squishy winter tyres would affect the overall reading. Changed recently to a single exhaust (Tegiwa) but I'd expect similar figures with it.

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Interesting to read and i'm also intrigued by the flat foot shifting even if the thought does make me a little nervous!

As said above the lack of paragraphs made it a little hard on the eyes! haha
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mine is completely standard and made 219.5 BHP / 152.5 lb ft, your right about the mods, mid range grunt I'm about -10 lb ft, it would be interesting to go down the RRC intake manifold, cat back, FD2 throttle body route and keep the exhaust manifold standard,
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I think that exactly what I'm going to do, also throw in the fd2 oil pump an balancer shaft killer kit
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FD2 pump is the best mod out the lot!
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Nice write up. I had mine done there too and like you said....it's brilliant. Very consistent figs, mine was standard apart from the air box mod and I think some mod to the exhaust as they said it was way too loud for standard. (And no its not blowing). Here's mine for you to compare Click the image to open in full size.


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What gain you looking at, cheers
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5-10bhp but all the way through the revs from idle to redline
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Got me all exciteted now

My turbo'd fn2 is booked in for april for the ecutek upgrade w all features & traction control - really looking forward to the TC & launch control though.

Did you go for bluetooth option? If so, how do you find the phone app to use?
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Did you go for bluetooth option? If so, how do you find the phone app to use?


It's only just become available has the Bluetooth interface so I don't know anyone that's used it. Will be ordering mine shortly but they confirmed today the car needs to go in for it setting up.


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Can I ask how much in total for all that mate?


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Hi Guys and Gals

I'm in Peterborough anyone know any Honda specialists in the near by area? From what I've been reading ABP is the closest with the best rep

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These have a decent reputation among my Nissan mates and are in Leicester.

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That's much closer thanks very much I'll have a look
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