Valve clearances...Possible dealer issue - Page 4

tristanmortimer · 26th October 2012, 15:09

Sounds like some one trying to pull the wool. I for one have never heard of it.

R555 · 26th October 2012, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristanmortimer

Sounds like some one trying to pull the wool. I for one have never heard of it.

+1 when Stevie at Grinspeed checked mine he had the head off and used a feeler gauge.

I dont think even Asimo could check the valve clearance without taking the head off the car.

Warwick1984 · 26th October 2012, 15:47

They were quick to offer a refund when I said put in writing what you do for a valve clearance I will also get in writing what HUK suggest should be done and then ask a 3rd party to review ( trading standards) he didn't like that at all

Lunar Tick · 26th October 2012, 16:49

Glad you're getting somewhere matey. Frankly it's appalling that you have had to resort to stealth tactics just to see if work that you paid for is actually carried out. As for their claimed 'valve load test', what a complete load of bull! Stories like this make me very happy that none of my last 3 performance cars ever went near a main stealer!!

Warwick1984 · 26th October 2012, 19:23

I just new that they would cut corners. It was an oil and filter changeplus clearance and the only reason I took it there was for a complete 5 service stamps from Honda. Not again but to be honest I don't think in welcome at the dealership any more. Any way money refunded an got the stamp I needed

Loxy · 27th October 2012, 18:50

More importantly, you still need your clearances checking.

Warwick1984 · 27th October 2012, 22:15

Yeo I think I need to book a trip to tdi north unless anyone can recommend a specialist in the midlands?

modd1uk · 27th October 2012, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Warwick1984

Yeo I think I need to book a trip to tdi north unless anyone can recommend a specialist in the midlands?

Come up to grinspeed in Preston. Cheaper than the competition and highly rated around the civic forums.

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cookci · 28th October 2012, 17:53

Is there a "how to" guide for a DIY valve clearance check?

Mine isn't due however I have no evidence its ever been done previously

Warwick1984 · 28th October 2012, 18:39

There are some around on google but is one of those things I'd want done by a professional

robmacca · 8th April 2013, 19:58

Sorry to drag up an old thread but i am looking at getting clearnce check done in the near future. as i live in the arse end of nowhere have decided to give the new honda dealership whcih jus opened up 10 miles away a chance even though they impressed me so far with regards to a recall notice.

Anyhoo how much should i be looking at and any tips to make sure i dont get ripped off? I have read the rest of the thread about them coning people with a computer check so i am gen'd up on that.

Finaly has anyone had dealings with Brundle Honda kings lynn, think they are a satalite for a bigger dealer around newmarket way

Warwick1984 · 8th April 2013, 22:35

Mark the rocker cover bolts with straight lines if they don't move chances are the rocker cover hasn't even been taken off and therefor check not done

stoney · 8th April 2013, 22:38

^^^ As Warwick says

Top tip, same as filters etc come service time

dweezle · 8th April 2013, 23:08

Unless they use this "magic computer" then they won't touch the rocker cover

stoney · 8th April 2013, 23:12

*****

Spank My Car · 8th April 2013, 23:13

I got quoted £120 and that included switching my rocker cover for one I've had painted (as its off anyways).

Spank

robmacca · 9th April 2013, 07:04

Cheers guys, like i said i will give them a chance in kings lynn it wont be till i come back of holiday now anyways

Megabreath · 9th April 2013, 09:13

Took mine about a month ago to a main dealer for a service and valve clearances. When I looked through the paper work and noticed there was no mention of them being checked I phoned the dealer and was told they were checked on a computer.

I actually believed them until I read this thread as the garage has been good in the past and now I am fuming that they have told this BS. They charged £254 for the service with the air filter. Have I been done? i feel like an absolute mug

I rang Honda UK and they are not helpful.

dweezle · 9th April 2013, 10:09

Odd honda uk wouldn't offer help, they're usually quite helpful

tdi-north · 9th April 2013, 10:38

They do now check them on a computer. If outside of limits they adjust them.
It's possibly working off a voltage level detected at the knock sensor at certain revs. Lads I spoke to that actually carry this out weren't quite sure of how it work just that its been recently introduced along with the new daignostics systems they are all using which isn't so easy to used for re-coding hence why I have been spending a bit of time at the local dealers helpng out with code changes.

Can see this working on a totally stock car but with any mods its not going to be as effective as noise levels change even with things like exhausts, mounts etc.

8th April 2013, 22:35	#72 (permalink)
Warwick1984 Car: 2007 Type-R GT Milano Red Join Date: 22nd March 2011 Location: Birmingham Posts: 792 Thanks given: 41 Thanked 80 Times in 77 Posts iTrader: (3)	Mark the rocker cover bolts with straight lines if they don't move chances are the rocker cover hasn't even been taken off and therefor check not done Last edited by Warwick1984; 8th April 2013 at 22:41.

9th April 2013, 10:09	#79 (permalink)
dweezle regrets his username Car: Championship White Join Date: 6th April 2012 Location: uk Posts: 2,591 Thanks given: 545 Thanked 377 Times in 349 Posts iTrader: (2)	Odd honda uk wouldn't offer help, they're usually quite helpful Last edited by dweezle; 9th April 2013 at 14:39.

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Loxy Cigar Chomper Car: 57 CTR GT Alabaster Silver Join Date: 17th January 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4,197 Thanks given: 502 Thanked 585 Times in 476 Posts iTrader: (20)	More importantly, you still need your clearances checking.

27th October 2012, 22:15	#67 (permalink)
Warwick1984 Car: 2007 Type-R GT Milano Red Join Date: 22nd March 2011 Location: Birmingham Posts: 792 Thanks given: 41 Thanked 80 Times in 77 Posts iTrader: (3)	Yeo I think I need to book a trip to tdi north unless anyone can recommend a specialist in the midlands?

28th October 2012, 17:53	#69 (permalink)
cookci Join Date: 3rd February 2012 Location: uk Posts: 288 Thanks given: 8 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	Is there a "how to" guide for a DIY valve clearance check? Mine isn't due however I have no evidence its ever been done previously

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Warwick1984 Car: 2007 Type-R GT Milano Red Join Date: 22nd March 2011 Location: Birmingham Posts: 792 Thanks given: 41 Thanked 80 Times in 77 Posts iTrader: (3)	There are some around on google but is one of those things I'd want done by a professional

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robmacca Car: 2008 CTR GT, Milano red Join Date: 24th July 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 169 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to drag up an old thread but i am looking at getting clearnce check done in the near future. as i live in the arse end of nowhere have decided to give the new honda dealership whcih jus opened up 10 miles away a chance even though they impressed me so far with regards to a recall notice. Anyhoo how much should i be looking at and any tips to make sure i dont get ripped off? I have read the rest of the thread about them coning people with a computer check so i am gen'd up on that. Finaly has anyone had dealings with Brundle Honda kings lynn, think they are a satalite for a bigger dealer around newmarket way

8th April 2013, 22:38	#73 (permalink)
stoney Supporter Car: 2007 FN2 GT Join Date: 24th March 2010 Location: lisburn Posts: 7,194 Thanks given: 160 Thanked 1,080 Times in 915 Posts iTrader: (9)	^^^ As Warwick says Top tip, same as filters etc come service time

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dweezle regrets his username Car: Championship White Join Date: 6th April 2012 Location: uk Posts: 2,591 Thanks given: 545 Thanked 377 Times in 349 Posts iTrader: (2)	Unless they use this "magic computer" then they won't touch the rocker cover

8th April 2013, 23:12	#75 (permalink)
stoney Supporter Car: 2007 FN2 GT Join Date: 24th March 2010 Location: lisburn Posts: 7,194 Thanks given: 160 Thanked 1,080 Times in 915 Posts iTrader: (9)	*****

8th April 2013, 23:13	#76 (permalink)
Spank My Car Its a cake, not a biscuit Car: '57 CTR GT Join Date: 6th September 2011 Location: London/Hertfordshire Posts: 1,689 Thanks given: 169 Thanked 186 Times in 175 Posts iTrader: (6)	I got quoted £120 and that included switching my rocker cover for one I've had painted (as its off anyways). Spank

9th April 2013, 07:04	#77 (permalink)
robmacca Car: 2008 CTR GT, Milano red Join Date: 24th July 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 169 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader: (0)	Cheers guys, like i said i will give them a chance in kings lynn it wont be till i come back of holiday now anyways

9th April 2013, 09:13	#78 (permalink)
Megabreath Car: 2008 NHB CTR Join Date: 22nd March 2012 Location: GY UK Posts: 53 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Took mine about a month ago to a main dealer for a service and valve clearances. When I looked through the paper work and noticed there was no mention of them being checked I phoned the dealer and was told they were checked on a computer. I actually believed them until I read this thread as the garage has been good in the past and now I am fuming that they have told this BS. They charged £254 for the service with the air filter. Have I been done? i feel like an absolute mug I rang Honda UK and they are not helpful.

9th April 2013, 10:38	#80 (permalink)
tdi-north Commercial user Join Date: 3rd May 2008 Location: Warrington Posts: 3,890 Thanks given: 131 Thanked 603 Times in 463 Posts iTrader: (0)	They do now check them on a computer. If outside of limits they adjust them. It's possibly working off a voltage level detected at the knock sensor at certain revs. Lads I spoke to that actually carry this out weren't quite sure of how it work just that its been recently introduced along with the new daignostics systems they are all using which isn't so easy to used for re-coding hence why I have been spending a bit of time at the local dealers helpng out with code changes. Can see this working on a totally stock car but with any mods its not going to be as effective as noise levels change even with things like exhausts, mounts etc.