Sunday Times Type R Review

pjr · 29th May 2007, 11:17

Just read Clarkson's review of the CTR - seems he's not a fan.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1839477.ece

britsbest · 29th May 2007, 13:22

http://aol.whatcar.com//RoadTest_Sum...DL=0&RT=221237

Charles_Harding · 29th May 2007, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjr

Just read Clarkson's review of the CTR - seems he's not a fan.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1839477.ece

Mr Clarkson, not a fan I agree.

But surely writing like that will make Honda go , Oh dear!

And then they will be encouraged to make it that little bit better!

The power of the engine does seem a little disappointing compared to the competition.

"After just two days in hospital , I took a turn for the nurse!"

Charles H.

spidey`s lunchbox · 29th May 2007, 15:27

I like Clarkson and I like Top Gear but this is a man who spends half his life pounding across Europe in V12 Astons, Ferraris and Lambos. Then you`re asked to test drive a Civic. You have to put things into perspective and these are just his opinions. His views on the ride I don`t agree with and the rear spoiler issue has been blown out of all proportion.
IMO, pound for pound there isn`t much better on the road!

THX1138 · 29th May 2007, 17:10

Clarkson is indeed showing his age more and more.

He can't get Radio2. Who cares, you just plug in your Ipod or MP3 cd's.
He can't adjust the seat in steps of 1 mm. That would mean you have to readjust everytime you wear a slightly thicker pair of pants, and you really wouldn't want to.
He can't see out the back. Who cares, and it's really not that bad.

The suspension is perhaps the only area where he might make a point, but come on it's a hot hatch. And after long bumpy trips, I'm not wasted by far. Honda would do good however to bring back wishbones in the rear.

Top gear website put the CTR on the number 1 spot in a range of 30 Hothatches. Clarkson isn't right all the time. Look at the cool wall.

josefd · 29th May 2007, 17:59

I'm very surprised about Mr. Clarksons review

I love Top Gear TV show, but it seems that he is really getting old

I drove some special Typer-R on Leipzig autoshow, this one had suspension from H&R and they said it was more firm than standard one and I loved it!

And I don't understand this complaints about rear spoiler. It's not an issue at all!

But as THX1138 said much important is that for Stig is Type-R nr.1 HH

! I don't know who Stig is, but I will trust him this time

czechplastik · 29th May 2007, 19:17

He stated at one point that he liked the standard version, thats not true, he pretty much rubbished that when he reviewed it.

Morris Minor · 29th May 2007, 19:24

I wouldn't worry unduly about JC's review - just regard it as entertainment. I enjoy his stuff very much but don't agree with most of it!

MM

Type S Bournemouth · 29th May 2007, 19:30

I hardly ever agree with with Clarksons Reviews no matter what car he tests.

But I do think he has a point in saying that why did Honda just use the same engine as the previous type r. I think they should of upped the anti like others and have an engine kicking out nearer the 240bhp mark.

Pottsy · 29th May 2007, 19:34

It's always comforting to see your own car choice vindicated by journalists. But where did the concept of trying stuff out and making your own mind up go to? If all journalists were right, we'd all drive the same car. Luckily many are wrong (or just trolling), including JC who famously didn't like the 911 because the radio was in the wrong place...

timetaker · 3rd June 2007, 02:28

We must remember that Top Gear is really an entertainment show.I like JC I find him witty and funny however,it doesn't mean that I have to agree with everthing that he says.The article is wordy and tries to be "controversial" and as another poster put it some journos are indeed trolling the public.
The Civic Type R is about to arrive in Australia and i can't wait for a test drive.Just last week I bought a copy of the May issue of "WhatCar" magazine and it pitted the Civic Type R with the Golf GTI,Madza 3MPS and the Leon Cupra(Which we don't get downunder)-result -the mag. chose the Civic Type R.
There you go.
I think in a law of physics it states that "For every force there is an equal and opposite force acting upon it".For every "bad" review on the Civic Type R ,I can find a good one.

THX1138 · 3rd June 2007, 09:22

And if enough people act on those bad reviews, we won't see a Type-R on the roads every 5 minutes, which is good.
Almost 2 months now since I got it, and I've yet to see another one.

spidey`s lunchbox · 3rd June 2007, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by THX1138

And if enough people act on those bad reviews, we won't see a Type-R on the roads every 5 minutes, which is good.
Almost 2 months now since I got it, and I've yet to see another one.

Maybe I don`t get out enough but I`m still to see a new Type R on the road, which is bizarre considering the bloody amount of time I`m having to wait for mine to arrive. Maybe our friends in the land of the tulip are snapping them all up!!

CivPilot · 4th June 2007, 06:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

He stated at one point that he liked the standard version, thats not true, he pretty much rubbished that when he reviewed it.

Although rumour is that he has one at his IOM home

THX1138 · 4th June 2007, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by spidey`s lunchbox

Maybe I don`t get out enough but I`m still to see a new Type R on the road, which is bizarre considering the bloody amount of time I`m having to wait for mine to arrive. Maybe our friends in the land of the tulip are snapping them all up!!

How many moons are left for you to wait ?

spidey`s lunchbox · 4th June 2007, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by THX1138

How many moons are left for you to wait ?

Well finally been given a concrete date of June 24th, four weeks later than first quoted. So when she does turn up it will have been 14 weeks in total, which I suppose isn`t too bad. I feel ( not literally) for a close mate of mine who ordered a silver rocketship ( same as yours) and he`s been given a date of mid July. Suffice to say he ain`t too impressed!!

Had a real good chat to the dealership in Croydon today, where we ordered from, and apparently demand is so high for the CTR with Sat Nav + HFT that new orders on this spec may not be delivered till November/December. But if you wanna CTR without the Sat + HFT then it`s a 6 week delivery.

All due to Honda`s ridiculous batch ordering process.

Anyway 21 days and counting

steelenator · 6th June 2007, 09:45

alright spidey, ordered ny nhb gt on the 18th of march. my worst case scenario concrete delivery date was the 10th of june. dealer rang me the other day and told me my delivery was now the 24th of june said i was lucky because i it had been due to be delivered on the 1st of july? wasn't a happy bunny. dealer just making it up as he goes along me thinks...

did you manage to blag any freebies? i only got mats and gap insurance, dunno wether or not to try push for bit more? as i feel they are already pulling my eyes out

czechplastik · 6th June 2007, 15:25

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Originally Posted by steelenator

did you manage to blag any freebies? i only got mats and gap insurance, dunno wether or not to try push for bit more? as i feel they are already pulling my eyes out

If you don't ask....you don't get, could always threaten to pull the plug and use a different dealer! Depends what you had in mind really.

spidey`s lunchbox · 6th June 2007, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelenator

alright spidey, ordered ny nhb gt on the 18th of march. my worst case scenario concrete delivery date was the 10th of june. dealer rang me the other day and told me my delivery was now the 24th of june said i was lucky because i it had been due to be delivered on the 1st of july? wasn't a happy bunny. dealer just making it up as he goes along me thinks...

did you manage to blag any freebies? i only got mats and gap insurance, dunno wether or not to try push for bit more? as i feel they are already pulling my eyes out

They knocked £375 off for the paint and threw in the mats ( £90) for free, so saved £465! Not great but the dealers don`t feel the need to budge too much as orders are stacked up.
My dealer assured me that June 24th was set in stone but we`ll see. Apparently dealers get a call from the factory 10 days before every delivery, so if you don`t receive a call on June 14th, you know what!!
Fingers crossed eh?

spsducati · 8th June 2007, 14:35

Hi Spidey - I've been given 25th June as date of delivery by Honda to Croydon - so my pick up will be 2/3 days later.

Is 24th your actual pick up date - can't remember are you getting yours from Norbury or Croydon.

29th May 2007, 11:17	#1 (permalink)
pjr We call him... The Stig Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th March 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 486 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sunday Times Type R Review Just read Clarkson's review of the CTR - seems he's not a fan. http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1839477.ece

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britsbest Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 9th September 2006 Location: Cheadle Hulme Posts: 228 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Heres another Video Review I found http://aol.whatcar.com//RoadTest_Sum...DL=0&RT=221237

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THX1138 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: Den Haag, The Netherlands Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Clarkson is indeed showing his age more and more. He can't get Radio2. Who cares, you just plug in your Ipod or MP3 cd's. He can't adjust the seat in steps of 1 mm. That would mean you have to readjust everytime you wear a slightly thicker pair of pants, and you really wouldn't want to. He can't see out the back. Who cares, and it's really not that bad. The suspension is perhaps the only area where he might make a point, but come on it's a hot hatch. And after long bumpy trips, I'm not wasted by far. Honda would do good however to bring back wishbones in the rear. Top gear website put the CTR on the number 1 spot in a range of 30 Hothatches. Clarkson isn't right all the time. Look at the cool wall. Last edited by THX1138; 29th May 2007 at 20:59.

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This thread is about: Sunday Times Type R Review, it's in Type-R at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Just read Clarkson's review of the CTR - seems he's not a fan. http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle1839477.ece...

29th May 2007, 15:27	#4 (permalink)
spidey`s lunchbox Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 7th February 2007 Location: London Posts: 121 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I like Clarkson and I like Top Gear but this is a man who spends half his life pounding across Europe in V12 Astons, Ferraris and Lambos. Then you`re asked to test drive a Civic. You have to put things into perspective and these are just his opinions. His views on the ride I don`t agree with and the rear spoiler issue has been blown out of all proportion. IMO, pound for pound there isn`t much better on the road!

29th May 2007, 17:59	#6 (permalink)
josefd Valve Cap Join Date: 6th September 2006 Location: Jablonec nad Nisou, Czech republic Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm very surprised about Mr. Clarksons review I love Top Gear TV show, but it seems that he is really getting old I drove some special Typer-R on Leipzig autoshow, this one had suspension from H&R and they said it was more firm than standard one and I loved it! And I don't understand this complaints about rear spoiler. It's not an issue at all! But as THX1138 said much important is that for Stig is Type-R nr.1 HH ! I don't know who Stig is, but I will trust him this time

29th May 2007, 19:17	#7 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	He stated at one point that he liked the standard version, thats not true, he pretty much rubbished that when he reviewed it.

29th May 2007, 19:24	#8 (permalink)
Morris Minor Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 7th May 2007 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't worry unduly about JC's review - just regard it as entertainment. I enjoy his stuff very much but don't agree with most of it! MM

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Type S Bournemouth Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 3rd October 2006 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 977 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I hardly ever agree with with Clarksons Reviews no matter what car he tests. But I do think he has a point in saying that why did Honda just use the same engine as the previous type r. I think they should of upped the anti like others and have an engine kicking out nearer the 240bhp mark.

29th May 2007, 19:34	#10 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,473 Thanks: 22 Thanked 166 Times in 97 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's always comforting to see your own car choice vindicated by journalists. But where did the concept of trying stuff out and making your own mind up go to? If all journalists were right, we'd all drive the same car. Luckily many are wrong (or just trolling), including JC who famously didn't like the 911 because the radio was in the wrong place...

3rd June 2007, 02:28	#11 (permalink)
timetaker Valve Cap Join Date: 6th March 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	We must remember that Top Gear is really an entertainment show.I like JC I find him witty and funny however,it doesn't mean that I have to agree with everthing that he says.The article is wordy and tries to be "controversial" and as another poster put it some journos are indeed trolling the public. The Civic Type R is about to arrive in Australia and i can't wait for a test drive.Just last week I bought a copy of the May issue of "WhatCar" magazine and it pitted the Civic Type R with the Golf GTI,Madza 3MPS and the Leon Cupra(Which we don't get downunder)-result -the mag. chose the Civic Type R. There you go. I think in a law of physics it states that "For every force there is an equal and opposite force acting upon it".For every "bad" review on the Civic Type R ,I can find a good one.

3rd June 2007, 09:22	#12 (permalink)
THX1138 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: Den Haag, The Netherlands Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	And if enough people act on those bad reviews, we won't see a Type-R on the roads every 5 minutes, which is good. Almost 2 months now since I got it, and I've yet to see another one.

6th June 2007, 09:45	#17 (permalink)
steelenator Valve Cap Join Date: 28th March 2007 Location: newcastle Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	alright spidey, ordered ny nhb gt on the 18th of march. my worst case scenario concrete delivery date was the 10th of june. dealer rang me the other day and told me my delivery was now the 24th of june said i was lucky because i it had been due to be delivered on the 1st of july? wasn't a happy bunny. dealer just making it up as he goes along me thinks... did you manage to blag any freebies? i only got mats and gap insurance, dunno wether or not to try push for bit more? as i feel they are already pulling my eyes out

8th June 2007, 14:35	#20 (permalink)
spsducati Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th February 2007 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Spidey - I've been given 25th June as date of delivery by Honda to Croydon - so my pick up will be 2/3 days later. Is 24th your actual pick up date - can't remember are you getting yours from Norbury or Croydon.