Standard 18" or Rage 19"s

[TTDegs]

If the 5dr and Type S are anything to go by, the tyres you get can be a bit of a lottery.

It would appear that Honda buy tyres in bulk from a small selection of providers, at whichever give the best price at the time.

Your Civic could therefore turn up with any of X Y or Z brand - all of which are homologated and good - but not neccessarily the brand you wanted or expected...

This may not be the case with the R - but I would be surprised if its not

[Alwaysblack]

I am sure that the main difference between the standard 18's and the 19" Rages, is in the eye of the beholder.
If you can afford it and you think they look better, get them.
I doubt it makes much difference, if any, to roadholding, speed, comfort , etc.
I personally like the standards, (mine have Bridgestones), could afford to change if I wanted to, but would much rather spend the money on the extra fuel needed to hear that engine........
I will not be upgrading the stereo either............

[angie4m]

I have only seen the Yokos on the Rage alloy wheels.....maybe something to do with the size?

[jamesaberdeen73]

i got the standard 18`s as the dealer said they made the ride even harder.

i also think the rages make the car look a little dark and dont really suit it.....just think the silver is a more balanced contrast

but thats just my clueless opinion

[jamesaberdeen73]

just trawled the net for rage pics......i think they maybe do look better....

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by jamesaberdeen73

just trawled the net for rage pics......i think they maybe do look better....

What a dull world it would be if we all liked the same, but the first dealer I went into had 2 nhb ctrs one with standard alloys and 1 with rage alloys. Got to say I didn't think the alloys made a diff to the real overall look of the car. However the 2nd dealer I went 2 had one red ctr in the showroom with the rage alloys on and it looked great, even more so when I saw someone elses ctr sitting outside with standard alloys on. It was at that point I had to have them.

[jamesaberdeen73]

yeah your right it would be dull.......might upgrade to bk 19`s when new tures are required which wont be long now

on the subject of you picking up your car u should give the thing a good look over before u take it.....i discoverd a fairly annoying scuff on my front spoiler and believe it or not a chip on the bonnet

but i was so exited and giddy i didnt notice at the time...silly me

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by jamesaberdeen73

yeah your right it would be dull.......might upgrade to bk 19`s when new tures are required which wont be long now

on the subject of you picking up your car u should give the thing a good look over before u take it.....i discoverd a fairly annoying scuff on my front spoiler and believe it or not a chip on the bonnet

but i was so exited and giddy i didnt notice at the time...silly me

I did that with the Mini. Waited till I needed new tyres and just upgraded the alloys lol

Oh don't you worry, I will be going over it with a fine toothcomb. I have printed off the new car checklist, but I've done it before with the mini. Took 2 hours going over it before anything was signed and it may not take 2 hours this time, but its getting a good going over outside, along every panel and underneath too!

Any issues and there will be hell! Think the salesman realises that already. He has been forwarned lol

[w.car]

i no this topic gettin boring now but i cant get decide wether to get the rages or not. IS IT WORTH IT? alot of friends which have seen the new type r with rages they all said SO NICE GET THEM.

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by w.car

i no this topic gettin boring now but i cant get decide wether to get the rages or not. IS IT WORTH IT? alot of friends which have seen the new type r with rages they all said SO NICE GET THEM.

Only you can really decide if its worth it. If you like them and feel that they are going to enhance the car in a way you want then get them.

Take it these are being bought after market, so will cost a fair bit more than being fitted at build.

So if you like them and are willing to pay what they want for them then there is only one answer really......get em!

[w.car]

though its £995 or is it more placing order after?

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by w.car

though its £995 or is it more placing order after?

I think you should get a price from Holdcroft - £950 is the price when ordering the car, but aftermarket I believe the retail is £2700!

I have seen Holdcroft selling them on Ebay for just over £2k! Drop them a wee private message to see what price they will do for you.

[angie4m]

Here is a link to the topic on the Holdcroft threads

Someone has quoted £2700 previously, but according to Holdcroft (who will know better) its £2500.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/holdcro...ge-alloys.html

[TTDegs]

the key being that at time of order, Honda get to keep your standard 18" wheels and tyres, and offset that against the cost of the 19" rages and tyres.

[w.car]

£2700 wow thats alot!

[jont122]

Having seen a couple of Type R's with 19" Rage wheels on, all had nasty kerb damage on the front wheels?

But looking at several 18" standard wheels non had any kerb damage?

The Rage alloys have no side wall protection at all, so carefull parking would be the order of the day.

But the 18" wheel do have a small amont of sidewall protection, so you could touch a Kerb and not damage a rim..............

I think the 19" Rages look good but could be expensive to keep looking good (refurbishing)

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by jont122

Having seen a couple of Type R's with 19" Rage wheels on, all had nasty kerb damage on the front wheels?

But looking at several 18" standard wheels non had any kerb damage?

The Rage alloys have no side wall protection at all, so carefull parking would be the order of the day.

But the 18" wheel do have a small amont of sidewall protection, so you could touch a cerb and not damage a rim..............

I think the 19" Rages look good but could be expensive to keep looking good (refurbishing)

Curbing due to well the driver of the vehical at the time and the tyres.

If the 18's are beng supplied with Bridgestones then there will be a lip around the tyre which will help prevent curbing but not all together.

As its not Bridgestones supplied with the 19's then there maybe no lip as you say, but if you bought just the alloys after market you could fit bridgestones or another tyre sporting a lip if you wish.

[TTDegs]

my 18" Storms show one or two signs of curb damage...

[Dimplyred]

Originally Posted by angie4m

If the 18's are beng supplied with Bridgestones then there will be a lip around the tyre which will help prevent curbing but not all together.

As its not Bridgestones supplied with the 19's then there maybe no lip as you say, but if you bought just the alloys after market you could fit bridgestones or another tyre sporting a lip if you wish.

It may be that at the moment there is not any manufacturers of this size that incorporates a rim protector or lip.

Tyre manufacturers do not simply decide to make a certain size for the hell of it. They are approached by car manufaturers at the design stage of a car, the car manufacturers inform the tyre manufacturers of the size and performance characteristics they need and the tyre is designed from there. Also cost is a big factor. Tyre manufacturers produce OE (original equipment ) tyres at virtually no profit and rely on the replacement market for their main source of revenue. Operating on the principal that if you have a newish car with a matching set of tyre chances are if you need to replace one you will buy the same make.

Having worked at Michelin for quite a few years I know that if there isn't a substantial profit involved they won't make certain sizes. So you may find your choice of tyre for the Rage wheels somewhat limited.

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by Dimplyred

It may be that at the moment there is not any manufacturers of this size that incorporates a rim protector or lip.

Tyre manufacturers do not simply decide to make a certain size for the hell of it. They are approached by car manufaturers at the design stage of a car, the car manufacturers inform the tyre manufacturers of the size and performance characteristics they need and the tyre is designed from there. Also cost is a big factor. Tyre manufacturers produce OE (original equipment ) tyres at virtually no profit and rely on the replacement market for their main source of revenue. Operating on the principal that if you have a newish car with a matching set of tyre chances are if you need to replace one you will buy the same make.

Having worked at Michelin for quite a few years I know that if there isn't a substantial profit involved they won't make certain sizes. So you may find your choice of tyre for the Rage wheels somewhat limited.

Well if you currently have Rage alloy wheels or are thinking about buying just the rims and want tob get a specific make of tyre fitted there is
currently:

Bridgstone RE050 Tyres (With Rim Protection)
Falken GRB FK 452 (with Rim protection)
Toyo Proxes T1-R Reinforced (with rim protection)
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (with rim protection)
Continental Conti-Sport Contact 2 reinforced (with rim protection)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx (with rim protection)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Yokohama Parada (supplied on factory built CTR)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric.

There are also a good few other cheaper tyre makes, but these are the main big one. So if you need tyres you have a little bit of choice, interesting that there are so many with rim protection, like the 18s have but yet they don't supply rim protection tyres with the Rages. Cost is one issue and maybe they thought that they looked better?