3rd gear - Page 4

Cookie · 28th October 2007, 19:48

you have to give time for the gearbox to loosen up ..
i had probs at first but now the gear change is sweet

beef4dinner · 28th October 2007, 20:26

The box is great when you get used to it, I haven't had a great opportunity to give it some from 2nd to 3rd as I have been on the motorway all weekend, and that is when I have been playing around with the throw. It didn't pop out once all weekend, and i'm not conciously thinking about throwing it into gear.

Munro · 28th October 2007, 20:44

My dealer reckoned the 3rd gear issue was mostly in peoples minds once they heard the story. The guy I spoke to at the dealers was a Type R fan, and used to have a supercharged EP3 Type R , so I dont think it was just sales talk. I still took the demonstrator for 2 test drives before placing my order, just to make sure, and couldn't fault the gearchange.

Still, some people have had a genuine problem.

moony1234 · 29th October 2007, 08:31

Well mine kept slipping out of 3rd in the first week of ownership, had it about 3 weeks now and it is getting better!

steelenator · 29th October 2007, 09:36

why would honda say that there is a fault with the gearbox then? done 5000miles now and its still pants...

duca · 29th October 2007, 15:54

Ok, not only the 3rd is the problem. Sometimes (when the car is cold) it's hard to put the reverse on so, (old school) i move with 1st gear a little to move the syncro and after select the reverse. But the worst thing was when i was running fast (ok probably going fast with a sport car is not normal

) in the motorway and after reaching the limit of 5th

the 6th totally reject my fast change (another thing not normal to do in a sport car

). Trust me that i'm not a novel with sport cars and i usually treat them very well. Not only but I love this car (apart some time the hard suspensions

) and the problems with the gear hurt me. I only hope that Honda officially recognize the problem and do some change. Wait for official news now.

anar · 30th October 2007, 07:50

Quote:

My dealer reckoned the 3rd gear issue was mostly in peoples minds once they heard the story.

Definitely not just in my mind I can tell you that. Its not a huge problem for me but nevertheless, pretty annoying.

ajnt · 1st November 2007, 09:03

It's wierd, I just got a CTR and since it's first 20 miles I've had no problems, in the warm or cold, with any of the gears, 3rd & reverse included. The shift is incredibly smooth and firm, much better than any other car I can think of (except my paddle-shift Audi from last year but that's cheating!).

Perhaps this is an issue they've (finally) sorted?

Munro · 10th November 2007, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by anar

Definitely not just in my mind I can tell you that. Its not a huge problem for me but nevertheless, pretty annoying.

Have a look at the Type R owners website, there is a lot of new information. The key points:

- The fault seems to affect a few random cars.
- There appears to be a fix out.

Link:
Civic Type R Owners • Login

Quote from the site dated 30th Oct 07:

" Just spoke with a nice lady on the number listed above who assured me a fix was out 4-6 weeks ago - in the form of a new 3rd gear synchro. She took my details, established my local dealer was City Honda in Basingstoke and is phoning them to get them to call me to book may car in to have the fix applied.

Couldn't be simpler! All that fretting about having a fight on my hands for nothing

I suggest anyone who has the same issue does the same as me and let's hope the new synchro fixes it once and for all.

No mention of freebies yet though.......

**UPDATE**
Have just had City Honda on the blower - the fix has been out in Japan for the Civic Hybrid for 4-6 weeks, however, the part is not on general release via honda tech in the UK. Hence the disconnect between some people saying there is a fix and some poeple saying there isn't one over here yet. The tech at my dealer told me to take my car in tomorrow, they'll fill out a report and then using that and my initial call to Honda UK, they will request the specific part for a fix to my car. Let's see what happens - I just hope their courtesy car isn't a Jazz!!!! "

ajnt · 12th November 2007, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by duca

in the motorway and after reaching the limit of 5th

...

Hold on, the limit of 5th is around 130mph?!?!

steelenator · 13th November 2007, 14:56

part for gear box winging its way to my dealer, dropping my car off tomorrow. not sure how long its going in for tho cos they're doing the clutch cylinder and my squeaks and rattles aswell

dealer wanting £10 a day insurance for the courtsey car, seems a bit much seen as the cars in for warrenty stuff. he says if i ring my own insurance they will proberbly cover it

Clouseau · 10th December 2007, 16:11

Are there any news about 3rd gear problem? Any official release?

Homer Simpson · 10th December 2007, 16:39

I can honestly say that I have had no problems at all with the gerabox on my CTR. It's not done very many miles but changes as sweet as a nut.

beef4dinner · 10th December 2007, 16:49

Mine is a pain, it's alright if you really shove it in, but anything slow and relaxed (especially when cold) pops it out. Happened to me yesterday, was sloppy on the way home, gear got to the first 'notch', popped out, and I was sloppy/slow at putting it back in, and there was a nice second of crunch. Spoke to my dealer a few weeks ago who knew nothing, but I gave Honda a call, so it should be logged with them. I will give my dealer a bell this week to see if they know anything knew. Don't want to take my car there to have it checked, I want to take it there to be fixed.

Ali · 10th December 2007, 17:12

I spoke to Honda after sales last week about the problem and they told me they are aware of the problem and honda are working on it,they told me to call back in February because they will have the 3rd gear replacement part in stock

uncler · 11th December 2007, 09:05

So we have to wait until Feb?! Well, at least they are acknowledging there's a problem! Was head office you spoke to, Ali?

Mine is getting annoying now, had 3rd gear pop out twice on the way to work today and crunched it as well. I thought as mine was an '08 car they would have sorted things by now!

Ah well, still love it!

Ali · 11th December 2007, 10:22

I rang up my Honda dealer in Grays and the aftersales manager told me.

woody2k4 · 2nd January 2008, 20:57

Hi chaps, i have a new TypeR and seem to be having this 3rd gear problem. Does not seem to be getting into gear smoothly. Only done 600 miles now and still having problems.

Would you suggest leave it for a bit or contact a local dealer now?

chessehead · 15th January 2008, 12:57

spoke to my local dealer today, part is now available to fix the fault (3rd-4th syncro apparently)

Stephen B · 15th January 2008, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody2k4

Hi chaps, i have a new TypeR and seem to be having this 3rd gear problem. Does not seem to be getting into gear smoothly. Only done 600 miles now and still having problems.

Would you suggest leave it for a bit or contact a local dealer now?

Best to log fault with dealer, and tell him you will evaluate yourself, mine is in for repair now.

Although the notchiness is still there I have subconciously adapted my driving style around it over past few months.

In total it has jumped out of 3rd approx 6 times since new, and not at all in last 3 months.

TBH I was in 2 minds whether to go ahead with the fix as it rarely happens now, but I didn't want to be left with the feeling something wasn't right, and the possibility of any metallic bits in my gearbox oil

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Cookie Valve Cap Join Date: 15th July 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	aok you have to give time for the gearbox to loosen up .. i had probs at first but now the gear change is sweet

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duca Valve Cap Join Date: 5th March 2007 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ok, not only the 3rd is the problem. Sometimes (when the car is cold) it's hard to put the reverse on so, (old school) i move with 1st gear a little to move the syncro and after select the reverse. But the worst thing was when i was running fast (ok probably going fast with a sport car is not normal ) in the motorway and after reaching the limit of 5th the 6th totally reject my fast change (another thing not normal to do in a sport car ). Trust me that i'm not a novel with sport cars and i usually treat them very well. Not only but I love this car (apart some time the hard suspensions ) and the problems with the gear hurt me. I only hope that Honda officially recognize the problem and do some change. Wait for official news now. Last edited by duca; 29th October 2007 at 16:01.

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28th October 2007, 20:26	#62 (permalink)
beef4dinner Valve Cap Join Date: 31st July 2007 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The box is great when you get used to it, I haven't had a great opportunity to give it some from 2nd to 3rd as I have been on the motorway all weekend, and that is when I have been playing around with the throw. It didn't pop out once all weekend, and i'm not conciously thinking about throwing it into gear.

28th October 2007, 20:44	#63 (permalink)
Munro Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,110 Thanks: 25 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts iTrader: (0)	My dealer reckoned the 3rd gear issue was mostly in peoples minds once they heard the story. The guy I spoke to at the dealers was a Type R fan, and used to have a supercharged EP3 Type R , so I dont think it was just sales talk. I still took the demonstrator for 2 test drives before placing my order, just to make sure, and couldn't fault the gearchange. Still, some people have had a genuine problem.

29th October 2007, 08:31	#64 (permalink)
moony1234 Valve Cap Join Date: 15th May 2006 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well mine kept slipping out of 3rd in the first week of ownership, had it about 3 weeks now and it is getting better!

29th October 2007, 09:36	#65 (permalink)
steelenator Valve Cap Join Date: 28th March 2007 Location: newcastle Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	why would honda say that there is a fault with the gearbox then? done 5000miles now and its still pants...

1st November 2007, 09:03	#68 (permalink)
ajnt Valve Cap Join Date: 19th October 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's wierd, I just got a CTR and since it's first 20 miles I've had no problems, in the warm or cold, with any of the gears, 3rd & reverse included. The shift is incredibly smooth and firm, much better than any other car I can think of (except my paddle-shift Audi from last year but that's cheating!). Perhaps this is an issue they've (finally) sorted?

13th November 2007, 14:56	#71 (permalink)
steelenator Valve Cap Join Date: 28th March 2007 Location: newcastle Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	part for gear box winging its way to my dealer, dropping my car off tomorrow. not sure how long its going in for tho cos they're doing the clutch cylinder and my squeaks and rattles aswell dealer wanting £10 a day insurance for the courtsey car, seems a bit much seen as the cars in for warrenty stuff. he says if i ring my own insurance they will proberbly cover it

10th December 2007, 16:11	#72 (permalink)
Clouseau Wheelnut Join Date: 28th October 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Are there any news about 3rd gear problem? Any official release?

10th December 2007, 16:39	#73 (permalink)
Homer Simpson Wheelnut Join Date: 11th November 2007 Location: England Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I can honestly say that I have had no problems at all with the gerabox on my CTR. It's not done very many miles but changes as sweet as a nut.

10th December 2007, 16:49	#74 (permalink)
beef4dinner Valve Cap Join Date: 31st July 2007 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine is a pain, it's alright if you really shove it in, but anything slow and relaxed (especially when cold) pops it out. Happened to me yesterday, was sloppy on the way home, gear got to the first 'notch', popped out, and I was sloppy/slow at putting it back in, and there was a nice second of crunch. Spoke to my dealer a few weeks ago who knew nothing, but I gave Honda a call, so it should be logged with them. I will give my dealer a bell this week to see if they know anything knew. Don't want to take my car there to have it checked, I want to take it there to be fixed.

10th December 2007, 17:12	#75 (permalink)
Ali Valve Cap Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I spoke to Honda after sales last week about the problem and they told me they are aware of the problem and honda are working on it,they told me to call back in February because they will have the 3rd gear replacement part in stock

11th December 2007, 09:05	#76 (permalink)
uncler Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 22nd November 2007 Location: SE London, UK Posts: 177 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	So we have to wait until Feb?! Well, at least they are acknowledging there's a problem! Was head office you spoke to, Ali? Mine is getting annoying now, had 3rd gear pop out twice on the way to work today and crunched it as well. I thought as mine was an '08 car they would have sorted things by now! Ah well, still love it!

11th December 2007, 10:22	#77 (permalink)
Ali Valve Cap Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I rang up my Honda dealer in Grays and the aftersales manager told me.

2nd January 2008, 20:57	#78 (permalink)
woody2k4 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 235 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi chaps, i have a new TypeR and seem to be having this 3rd gear problem. Does not seem to be getting into gear smoothly. Only done 600 miles now and still having problems. Would you suggest leave it for a bit or contact a local dealer now?

15th January 2008, 12:57	#79 (permalink)
chessehead Valve Cap Join Date: 31st July 2007 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	spoke to my local dealer today, part is now available to fix the fault (3rd-4th syncro apparently)