Type R - Trick Rear Seats or Magic Rear Seats ???

Munro · 6th September 2007, 18:09

Does the CTR have Magic or Trick rear seats ?

I found these pictures in an Auto Express test:

brawnr · 6th September 2007, 19:00

Good find on the picture.

I was told that the Type R NEARLY has the magic seats...the base of the seat folds up (as in the picture) but there is no way to secure it there. Apparently you have to secure it using the seat belts. The standard Civic has a catch of some sort to hold it in place.

Still waiting for my Type R, so I cannot give first hand confirmation of this!

philosoma · 6th September 2007, 19:21

What brawnr said is spot on, they go up but you need to use the seat belt to keep them there. The only magical thing about the front seats is they are comfy as and look the part

TTDegs · 7th September 2007, 00:14

it's a 3 door thing - the type S has almost magic seats too

"you're gonna like this - not a lot!"

(apols to all the youngsters out there to whom that quote made no sense whatsoever

)

Munro · 25th November 2007, 17:11

This is a daft question but I can't find the solution in the owners manual.

How do you lift the trick rear seats ???

When the seat is down there is a floor mounted hook over the seat leg where the green arrow points to in the picture. I cant find the button or lever that releases it.

druidh · 25th November 2007, 17:34

No "release" on the 5 door - just lift the seat base up.

Foggy69 · 25th November 2007, 17:34

On the Type S, the hook is spring loaded. You just have to pull the hook far enough back to release the seat leg.
Just remember, when you put the seat back down, you have to manually pull the hook back again so that you can secure the seat leg.
It is a pointless and stupid bit of design. Why make the seats NEARLY magic.

ASH · 25th November 2007, 17:41

3D models are not designed to lift the seat base. That is why it's not mentioney in owners' manual, and a part of trim is missing at bottom of rear seat. That's what my dealer told me.

Munro · 25th November 2007, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foggy69

On the Type S, the hook is spring loaded. You just have to pull the hook far enough back to release the seat leg.
Just remember, when you put the seat back down, you have to manually pull the hook back again so that you can secure the seat leg.
It is a pointless and stupid bit of design. Why make the seats NEARLY magic.

My hook moves about quarter of an inch when you push it by hand, but it does not move enough to release the seat leg. Do you have to force it to release it ?

SHADEMASTER · 26th November 2007, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munro

My hook moves about quarter of an inch when you push it by hand, but it does not move enough to release the seat leg. Do you have to force it to release it ?

It could be jammed,
My catch was a bit stiff to start with but after pushing the catch quite hard it now works okay.

SHADEMASTER · 26th November 2007, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by brawnr

Good find on the picture.

I was told that the Type R NEARLY has the magic seats...the base of the seat folds up (as in the picture) but there is no way to secure it there. Apparently you have to secure it using the seat belts. The standard Civic has a catch of some sort to hold it in place.

Still waiting for my Type R, so I cannot give first hand confirmation of this!

My bottom seats in my Navara fold up the same was as the Civic but there is a catch to hold them up.
Using the seat belts in the R really don`t work (or it could just be me)
I found one of those elastic luggage straps the ones with the hook on either end worked best to hold the seats up.

pjr · 26th November 2007, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADEMASTER

My bottom seats in my Navara fold up the same was as the Civic but there is a catch to hold them up.
Using the seat belts in the R really don`t work (or it could just be me)
I found one of those elastic luggage straps the ones with the hook on either end worked best to hold the seats up.

I'm guessing that the seatbelts in the R are the same as in the S - Once you have folded the seat bases up, pull the seatbelt out as far as it will go - as it then winds back in it will make a ratcheting/clicking sound and once the belt is tight to the seat base it will hold it in place.

The seatbelts ratchet in to secure non-isofix child seats.

Pictures here - Proof that the Type S has Magic Seats....

SHADEMASTER · 26th November 2007, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjr

I'm guessing that the seatbelts in the R are the same as in the S - Once you have folded the seat bases up, pull the seatbelt out as far as it will go - as it then winds back in it will make a ratcheting/clicking sound and once the belt is tight to the seat base it will hold it in place.

The seatbelts ratchet in to secure non-isofix child seats.

Pictures here - Proof that the Type S has Magic Seats....

I did wonder why Honda would go to all that bother of designing and build bottom seats that fold up but with no secure way of holding them there

Thanks Mate!

MrThanh · 27th November 2007, 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munro

My hook moves about quarter of an inch when you push it by hand, but it does not move enough to release the seat leg. Do you have to force it to release it ?

same as mine. it doesn't seem like it moves back enough, but if you push it back as far as it will go and then lift the seat it will come up.

jas72 · 27th November 2007, 18:16

stupid question but why do you want
or need it to do this?

MrThanh · 28th November 2007, 06:52

extra load space for bulky/tall items?

jas72 · 28th November 2007, 12:15

Like a small tree in a pot?

SHADEMASTER · 28th November 2007, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by jas72

stupid question but why do you want
or need it to do this?

I have two Spaniels, folding up the bottom rear seats make it easy for the dogs to get in, and they can't damage the seats as they are sitting on the carpet

jas72 · 28th November 2007, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADEMASTER

I have two Spaniels, folding up the bottom rear seats make it easy for the dogs to get in, and they can't damage the seats as they are sitting on the carpet

The dog. Good idea.

Munro · 28th November 2007, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jas72

stupid question but why do you want
or need it to do this?

It looks like there are various uses from the posts below. For me it is because I am thinking of mounting a small sub woofer under the rear seat. Lifting the seats will give me better access for running cables / mounting the sub etc. I may also lift the seat for carrying something, as others have noted.

Thanks for the Good idea of using the seat belts to hold the seats up.

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brawnr Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 20th August 2007 Posts: 139 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good find on the picture. I was told that the Type R NEARLY has the magic seats...the base of the seat folds up (as in the picture) but there is no way to secure it there. Apparently you have to secure it using the seat belts. The standard Civic has a catch of some sort to hold it in place. Still waiting for my Type R, so I cannot give first hand confirmation of this!

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philosoma Wheelnut Join Date: 23rd March 2007 Location: England Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What brawnr said is spot on, they go up but you need to use the seat belt to keep them there. The only magical thing about the front seats is they are comfy as and look the part

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it's a 3 door thing - the type S has almost magic seats too "you're gonna like this - not a lot!" (apols to all the youngsters out there to whom that quote made no sense whatsoever )

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Foggy69 Vivid Blue Rocks!!! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Westerham Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	On the Type S, the hook is spring loaded. You just have to pull the hook far enough back to release the seat leg. Just remember, when you put the seat back down, you have to manually pull the hook back again so that you can secure the seat leg. It is a pointless and stupid bit of design. Why make the seats NEARLY magic.

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ASH Wheelnut Join Date: 29th September 2007 Location: London Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	3D models are not designed to lift the seat base. That is why it's not mentioney in owners' manual, and a part of trim is missing at bottom of rear seat. That's what my dealer told me.

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