Upgrade to sat nav & HFT??

askernlad · 10th September 2007, 10:23

Hi all. Does any one know if you can upgrade to the sat nav and HFT after you have bought the car? I couldnt upgrade to it at the time of purchase, due to this car already being the the show room as somebody ordered the car and gave back word.

cylon2007 · 10th September 2007, 11:28

Save your money and get a TomTom and a Parrot bluetooth carkit. Much cheaper and better.

askernlad · 10th September 2007, 11:40

Yeah, i agree with much cheaper, but i dont really want all the wires on show, and the ring mark that the tom tom leaves on the window every time you remove the holder. I have actually got an older tom tom go500 that you can connect your phone to with bluetooth, but its crap to use as a hands free for the phone. No one can ever hear you talking.

Kremmen · 10th September 2007, 12:31

I wonder why the likes of TomTom can't produce a holder that is something like the Braun electric toothbrush chargers ?

No exposed wires or electrical connectors and simply slots onto the spindle.

A suitable unit with a larger spindle and all designed in black would be far better than the windscreen mounts.

I also wonder why TomTom insist on fixed length straight cables instead of flexible coiled ones that would stretch to fit and would look far better.

cylon2007 · 10th September 2007, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by askernlad

Yeah, i agree with much cheaper, but i dont really want all the wires on show, and the ring mark that the tom tom leaves on the window every time you remove the holder. I have actually got an older tom tom go500 that you can connect your phone to with bluetooth, but its crap to use as a hands free for the phone. No one can ever hear you talking.

the Parrot properly fitted doesn't have wires all over the place (Ill take some pics of mine) and for the TomTom get a Brodit clip for either the centre console or air vet, no ring mark on windscreen then, much neater too. You only then have the power wire for the Tom Tom when you are using it or again it can be hardwired using an active Bordit mount.

I would also argue that th TomTom is better as you can run PIO's for speedcameras (you can't on the Hinda one) map updates cost under £100 for all of Western Europe (£300 for an update to the Honda one!!)

askernlad · 10th September 2007, 13:48

Ive seen a thread some where on the site about the parrot device but cant find it again. What do you think of it, and which model would you advise?

cylon2007 · 10th September 2007, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by askernlad

Ive seen a thread some where on the site about the parrot device but cant find it again. What do you think of it, and which model would you advise?

I have the 3100 fitted, it's not a bling as the 3200 which has a colour screen and can show pics, but the guy who fitted it for me advised against the 3200 as the screens have a tendancy to fail.

It works brilliantly, he fitted the parrot and a connects 2 box and DAB ICS100 that I supplied and charged me £150 (mates rates - it took him about 4 hours all in) to do the lot.

So I now have DAB radio a bluetooth hands free kit and an aux in for my MP3 player for £230 all in

askernlad · 10th September 2007, 14:07

Lucky you! I dont supose hed travell up to Doncaster to fit it tho.

I dont really like to see stuff added onto the inside of the car. Where have you mounted the parrot screen? Can you remove the display or does it have to stay inplace all the time? (Pics would be helpfull)
cheers

TTDegs · 10th September 2007, 14:08

back to the oringal question - can sat nav be retro fitted?

It probably could, but it's far from an easy job, and would certainly cost more than the original £800 or so option

Needs new dash, sat nav screen, steering wheel (for voice command buttons) and a lot of labour

askernlad · 10th September 2007, 14:14

So, its looking more and more the sticking with the tom tom, and getting a parrot fitted.

baillieswells · 10th September 2007, 14:33

[quote=cylon2007;102646]the Parrot properly fitted doesn't have wires all over the place (Ill take some pics of mine) and for the TomTom get a Brodit clip for either the centre console or air vet, no ring mark on windscreen then, much neater too. You only then have the power wire for the Tom Tom when you are using it or again it can be hardwired using an active Bordit mount.

Which is the best position for a Brodit Clip? I have found three different versions for the Civic. How is it fixed? Is it universal for any Sat Nav, or does it have to be specific for a particular Sat Nav? I have a Garmin nuvi 350T. Sorry for these facile questions, but have only just bought my first Sat Nav. The sucker which comes with it I find impossible to fix to the windscreen.

Many thanks to anyone who can help.

czechplastik · 10th September 2007, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by askernlad

So, its looking more and more the sticking with the tom tom, and getting a parrot fitted.

TT is right the cost would totally outweigh the benefits of an integrated system. You could buy aftermarket versions for less than £300.

Nitehawk · 18th September 2007, 13:18

I am looking at similar ideas and have received some good links from this and another site. The best aftermarket Sat Nav according to Which Magazine is the Snooper Syrius (90%) and second was the TomTom 510(89%) so either of them will be my choice having read the reviews. I went to one of the sites and was forwarded to Brodit.com All you do is type in your car type and it shows you the option of 3 different fitting kits (I particularly dislike the windscreen mount for the obvious of reasons). The mounts fit either to the left of the gearstick or the vent clip. Option 2 is recommended by Sat Nav suppliers) I am not sure that the vent kit would be ideal for this type of device but I am sure a photo from one of our spaceship owners would identify that one way or the other. The Brodit kit costs around £19.99 and looking at the photos/video are painless to fit. I have been looking at the Parrot Bluetooth kit and a work colleague has this tidy 3100 Evolution kit neatly located just behind her ash tray (Honda Civic) She seems well impressed with it (she must do because she spends hours on it Ha!!) The cost of that particular kit is £99.00 fitted at Halfords

l-noel · 18th September 2007, 13:37

I've a Garmin Nüvi 660 mounted on the airvent with the Brodit proclip kit. Easy to fit and no problem with warm/cool air ... Honda europe propose a Nüvi kit with all Honda dealer and other stuff fixed on the dashboard as an accessories. (sea Honda Europe site for more info.)

And I'm looking for a better solution for the wiring (both energy and link with the head unit)

Bog · 18th September 2007, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTDegs

back to the oringal question - can sat nav be retro fitted?

It probably could, but it's far from an easy job, and would certainly cost more than the original £800 or so option

Needs new dash, sat nav screen, steering wheel (for voice command buttons) and a lot of labour

I agree, alot of expense and alot of hassle!

On a geeky note, I have noticed on the 1.4s hire car Civic I have at the moment that the main dashboard top part is the same on non sat nav models as sat nav versions.

What I mean is the triangular trim/design piece (which is actually part of the molded top) adjacent to the nav display or radio display is the same on both versions - on non nav versions, the plastic panel covering the top of the radio (behind the vents) cover is flat an level, covering part of the triangle, whereas on the sat nav versions, the radio cover dips down exposing the bottom edge of the triangle

If you get what I mean. So at least you would not have to replace the whole top part of the dash! (Ok virtually everything else!)

Nick-TypeR · 19th September 2007, 11:49

just wait untill there is a 2din adaptar avaible and putt in a 2din navi and your done

rikkiola · 5th October 2007, 17:13

If you use the Brodit mount near the gearstick, does the GPS unit still pick up a signal? I thought that they had to have clear line of site to the satellites?

Kremmen · 6th October 2007, 06:52

My old TT1 used to pick up the signal from anywhere, even in the centre of my house with no line of sight, and in the brick garage with the doors shut.

I think it was the SIRFIII chipset?

I don't think I would like to mount a TT near the gearstick as it's not in easy line of sight down there.

The Brodit by the glovebox would be better. I'm not a fan of airvent mounts as I cannot see the icy air in Summer doing them much good.

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10th September 2007, 11:28	#2 (permalink)
cylon2007 Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 525 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Save your money and get a TomTom and a Parrot bluetooth carkit. Much cheaper and better.

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askernlad Valve Cap Join Date: 1st September 2007 Location: Doncaster Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yeah, i agree with much cheaper, but i dont really want all the wires on show, and the ring mark that the tom tom leaves on the window every time you remove the holder. I have actually got an older tom tom go500 that you can connect your phone to with bluetooth, but its crap to use as a hands free for the phone. No one can ever hear you talking.

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Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	I wonder why the likes of TomTom can't produce a holder that is something like the Braun electric toothbrush chargers ? No exposed wires or electrical connectors and simply slots onto the spindle. A suitable unit with a larger spindle and all designed in black would be far better than the windscreen mounts. I also wonder why TomTom insist on fixed length straight cables instead of flexible coiled ones that would stretch to fit and would look far better.

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askernlad Valve Cap Join Date: 1st September 2007 Location: Doncaster Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ive seen a thread some where on the site about the parrot device but cant find it again. What do you think of it, and which model would you advise?

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askernlad Valve Cap Join Date: 1st September 2007 Location: Doncaster Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Lucky you! I dont supose hed travell up to Doncaster to fit it tho. I dont really like to see stuff added onto the inside of the car. Where have you mounted the parrot screen? Can you remove the display or does it have to stay inplace all the time? (Pics would be helpfull) cheers

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	back to the oringal question - can sat nav be retro fitted? It probably could, but it's far from an easy job, and would certainly cost more than the original £800 or so option Needs new dash, sat nav screen, steering wheel (for voice command buttons) and a lot of labour

10th September 2007, 14:14	#10 (permalink)
askernlad Valve Cap Join Date: 1st September 2007 Location: Doncaster Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	So, its looking more and more the sticking with the tom tom, and getting a parrot fitted.

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baillieswells Valve Cap Join Date: 9th July 2007 Location: South Cambridgeshire Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	[quote=cylon2007;102646]the Parrot properly fitted doesn't have wires all over the place (Ill take some pics of mine) and for the TomTom get a Brodit clip for either the centre console or air vet, no ring mark on windscreen then, much neater too. You only then have the power wire for the Tom Tom when you are using it or again it can be hardwired using an active Bordit mount. Which is the best position for a Brodit Clip? I have found three different versions for the Civic. How is it fixed? Is it universal for any Sat Nav, or does it have to be specific for a particular Sat Nav? I have a Garmin nuvi 350T. Sorry for these facile questions, but have only just bought my first Sat Nav. The sucker which comes with it I find impossible to fix to the windscreen. Many thanks to anyone who can help.

18th September 2007, 13:18	#13 (permalink)
Nitehawk Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: North Cambs Posts: 100 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I am looking at similar ideas and have received some good links from this and another site. The best aftermarket Sat Nav according to Which Magazine is the Snooper Syrius (90%) and second was the TomTom 510(89%) so either of them will be my choice having read the reviews. I went to one of the sites and was forwarded to Brodit.com All you do is type in your car type and it shows you the option of 3 different fitting kits (I particularly dislike the windscreen mount for the obvious of reasons). The mounts fit either to the left of the gearstick or the vent clip. Option 2 is recommended by Sat Nav suppliers) I am not sure that the vent kit would be ideal for this type of device but I am sure a photo from one of our spaceship owners would identify that one way or the other. The Brodit kit costs around £19.99 and looking at the photos/video are painless to fit. I have been looking at the Parrot Bluetooth kit and a work colleague has this tidy 3100 Evolution kit neatly located just behind her ash tray (Honda Civic) She seems well impressed with it (she must do because she spends hours on it Ha!!) The cost of that particular kit is £99.00 fitted at Halfords

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l-noel Wine and cooking ! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Roanne-France Posts: 1,316 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've a Garmin Nüvi 660 mounted on the airvent with the Brodit proclip kit. Easy to fit and no problem with warm/cool air ... Honda europe propose a Nüvi kit with all Honda dealer and other stuff fixed on the dashboard as an accessories. (sea Honda Europe site for more info.) And I'm looking for a better solution for the wiring (both energy and link with the head unit)

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Nick-TypeR Valve Cap Join Date: 18th June 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	just wait untill there is a 2din adaptar avaible and putt in a 2din navi and your done

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rikkiola Valve Cap Join Date: 25th September 2007 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	If you use the Brodit mount near the gearstick, does the GPS unit still pick up a signal? I thought that they had to have clear line of site to the satellites?

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Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	My old TT1 used to pick up the signal from anywhere, even in the centre of my house with no line of sight, and in the brick garage with the doors shut. I think it was the SIRFIII chipset? I don't think I would like to mount a TT near the gearstick as it's not in easy line of sight down there. The Brodit by the glovebox would be better. I'm not a fan of airvent mounts as I cannot see the icy air in Summer doing them much good.