Type-R diesel is on the way - Page 2

angie4m · 24th October 2007, 20:06

I would buy one! You get quite a few hot hatch diesels and I think that Honda would do very well indeed!

nellz_bassettshonda · 25th October 2007, 00:36

i heard a rumour from one of the main men @ huk claiming the diesel i-dtec is revving past 10 rpm in tests ,

Seirrah · 25th October 2007, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by nellz_bassettshonda

i heard a rumour from one of the main men @ huk claiming the diesel i-dtec is revving past 10 rpm in tests ,

once...before blowing up leaving a crater :P

I wonder how the fuel economy would be affected.

czechplastik · 25th October 2007, 20:16

Wow, brilliant! Put me down for one of them

czechplastik · 25th October 2007, 20:20

I find this mightily exciting!

TTDegs · 25th October 2007, 22:08

make sure you're following the Accord iDTEC thread too

high revving Diesel engine? Blimey!
Wonder if they just doubled the numbers on the rev counter

freddo1 · 25th October 2007, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTDegs

make sure you're following the Accord iDTEC thread too

high revving Diesel engine? Blimey!
Wonder if they just doubled the numbers on the rev counter

Probably just replace it with all the redundant petrol Types R's rev counters

FWH · 26th October 2007, 16:54

I think we beat them too it with the Type-D....

psykik · 1st November 2007, 19:42

IDtec advantages?

better fuel economy and what else?

FWH · 1st November 2007, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykik

IDtec advantages?

better fuel economy and what else?

More low rev torque and better impersonation of farm yard equipment.

gray52 · 2nd November 2007, 01:12

this weeks auto express says honda are looking at doing a typr-r D for 2009.....please form an orderly Q! bet the dealers love that sort of thing being printed, everyone will want one and they cannot supply it.

robbo51 · 2nd November 2007, 08:12

Bump:
http://www.civinfo.com/forum/honda-n...tml#post116549

vtidan · 2nd November 2007, 15:55

http://aol.whatcar.com/news_article....9&type=autocar

according to the site above its 180bhp and 320 lbs ft. Thats the same as a chipped 2.2 diesel anyway. lol.

Seirrah · 2nd November 2007, 17:03

Yes but the possible typeR diesel would supposedly be some high revving version of it...which Honda are working on. Plus if the 180bhp is as standard there is always the opportunity to re-map the ECU for further performance improvements....just as is done now with the iCDTi.

Pottsy · 2nd November 2007, 17:14

High revving diesel?

I'm going to stick my neck out, in writing, and say..... Bol****

Why?
1. By the time the fuel has burnt, the piston has moved too far down. This is why all diesels rev out at 4,500 to 5,000. The high you rev, the more efficiency drops.
2. You can increase the revs a bit by slowing down the initial downward travel speed of the piston by using a complicated, funky and unproven pull rod engine. Revs all the way up to about 6,000. Only advantage is to reduce engine capacity for a certain power output.
3. When Audi built the ultimate diesel racing engine that won Le Mans, it was a slow revver.
4. I assume that the PR people will also claim that it runs on water, makes 400 bhp, is inaudible, cures global warming and makes you more virile.

Ready for this post to be linked to in one year's time...

vtidan · 2nd November 2007, 17:33

If I wanted a car that revved to 9 or 10k I would have kept my S2000 or my DC5 Teg.

Seirrah · 2nd November 2007, 20:14

I was just repeating what Kenichi Nagahiro said in the link of the opening post by the way.
It may or may not be possible to make a high revving diesel engine, but they seem to be putting some effort into trying to achieve it.

Brodick · 2nd November 2007, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

I find this mightily exciting!

I've just had a vision of you being mightily excited

and I didn't like it

civsport18 · 14th February 2008, 12:39

Honda adding diesel to Civic Type-R, in Europe at least - AutoblogGreen

Motor Authority Honda planning diesel-powered Civic Type-R

Interesting

angie4m · 14th February 2008, 14:50

Has this not been covered several times now???

Like here in the Honda News Feeds http://www.civinfo.com/forum/honda-n...iesel-way.html

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angie4m Naughty but nice Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 25 Thanked 50 Times in 50 Posts iTrader: (0)	I would buy one! You get quite a few hot hatch diesels and I think that Honda would do very well indeed!

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nellz_bassettshonda Bassetts Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 26th February 2007 Location: Bridgend , South Wales Posts: 343 Thanks: 30 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	i heard a rumour from one of the main men @ huk claiming the diesel i-dtec is revving past 10 rpm in tests ,

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Wow, brilliant! Put me down for one of them

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I find this mightily exciting!

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,634 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	make sure you're following the Accord iDTEC thread too high revving Diesel engine? Blimey! Wonder if they just doubled the numbers on the rev counter

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,500 Thanks: 20 Thanked 86 Times in 79 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think we beat them too it with the Type-D....

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psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 475 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	IDtec advantages? better fuel economy and what else?

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robbo51 It's my fault! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,892 Thanks: 66 Thanked 75 Times in 72 Posts iTrader: (0)	Bump: http://www.civinfo.com/forum/honda-n...tml#post116549

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vtidan Wheelnut Join Date: 14th June 2007 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	http://aol.whatcar.com/news_article....9&type=autocar according to the site above its 180bhp and 320 lbs ft. Thats the same as a chipped 2.2 diesel anyway. lol.

2nd November 2007, 17:03	#34 (permalink)
Seirrah Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 12th August 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes but the possible typeR diesel would supposedly be some high revving version of it...which Honda are working on. Plus if the 180bhp is as standard there is always the opportunity to re-map the ECU for further performance improvements....just as is done now with the iCDTi.

2nd November 2007, 17:14	#35 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,953 Thanks: 26 Thanked 243 Times in 130 Posts iTrader: (0)	High revving diesel? I'm going to stick my neck out, in writing, and say..... Bol** Why? 1. By the time the fuel has burnt, the piston has moved too far down. This is why all** diesels rev out at 4,500 to 5,000. The high you rev, the more efficiency drops. 2. You can increase the revs a bit by slowing down the initial downward travel speed of the piston by using a complicated, funky and unproven pull rod engine. Revs all the way up to about 6,000. Only advantage is to reduce engine capacity for a certain power output. 3. When Audi built the ultimate diesel racing engine that won Le Mans, it was a slow revver. 4. I assume that the PR people will also claim that it runs on water, makes 400 bhp, is inaudible, cures global warming and makes you more virile. Ready for this post to be linked to in one year's time...

2nd November 2007, 17:33	#36 (permalink)
vtidan Wheelnut Join Date: 14th June 2007 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	If I wanted a car that revved to 9 or 10k I would have kept my S2000 or my DC5 Teg.

2nd November 2007, 20:14	#37 (permalink)
Seirrah Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 12th August 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I was just repeating what Kenichi Nagahiro said in the link of the opening post by the way. It may or may not be possible to make a high revving diesel engine, but they seem to be putting some effort into trying to achieve it.

14th February 2008, 14:50	#40 (permalink)
angie4m Naughty but nice Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 25 Thanked 50 Times in 50 Posts iTrader: (0)	Has this not been covered several times now??? Like here in the Honda News Feeds http://www.civinfo.com/forum/honda-n...iesel-way.html