Tyre Choice Opinions Wanted!

[Mr JP]

Ok, I need to replace my front tyres for my 19" rages, but im on ultra tight budget, although i dont want rubbish.

ive seen these called FULLRUN???

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Anyone heard of them / tried them?

they are speed rating "W", does this matter/affect anything as my yokos are "Y" ive notcied?

Also seen "Falken", they are £45 cheaper than Toyo that were reccomended to me, so I really dont know what to do,

or there is blackcircles value choice which doesnt tell you the brand you're gonna get but they are only £76

please help!

[NEEMSTAR]

that is a difficult one
never heard of full run
i have had falkens before and they are ok but the car was not a CTR
black circles are always good to deal with and will probably give you falkens or similar but again are you happy with putting them on the car

i don't know your situation and how you drive but i would not hold back on something like tyres

If you drive your CTR hard in every condition i would definitely not recommend cheap tyres as they will underperform
Your best bet looks like the Falkens and replace them earlier than you normally would next time?

W Rated Tyres instead of Y rated
here is a recent topic on speed ratings

good luck with the search

[Glepor]

Try here:
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A fair bit more expensive than you've found, but the Avons are very good value at £142 fitted.

[Unknownsoldier]

I've found Nokia's to be good tyres for price and performance. So perhaps a good trall round the tyre company's websites to find a better deal??

Tom

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Glepor

Try here:
Cheap Tyre Prices | Dunlop Goodyear Pirelli | Discount Car Tyres | Tyre Shopper
A fair bit more expensive than you've found, but the Avons are very good value at £142 fitted.

for that price he might aswell get Toyos

[Courant]

The Falkens seem to be the value choice as they offer decent performance for the money. Have you tried Event tyres, they've always been the cheapest for me:

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I wouldn't buy generic budget tyres. Stick to the Y speed rating too. Frankly fitting budget tyres to a CTR is a false economy, they'll wear faster and you'll cripple the performance of the car. Plus there's the safety aspect - if your can can go fast, you also want it to stop fast.

How about getting pre-worns, either through a dealer or through ebay?

Courant

[Milano_Jon]

I bought cheap tyres for a previous car as I was in the process of selling it and didnt want to waste cash on the recommended Michelin. I bought 4 for £200 fitted (whereas Michelins were £135 each). I think they were Barums

The cheap tyres absolutly ruined the handling and performance of the car. I ended up keeping the car for a few thousand miles more than I thought and they wore very quickly. They were 1.6mm after 10,000 miles, so I ended up buying another set after all!

At the end of the day the choice is yours, but I wouldnt buy cheap tyres again. When I replace the tyres on my FN2, I will replace them with Honda recommended tyres.

[allan40alt]

You have four small areas, each the size of the sole of a shoe, keeping you on the road in all weathers. Isn't there something else you can economise on rather than put cheap tyres on your wonderful fun machine? What's your life worth?

[Glepor]

I would agree that cheap tyres are a false economy. What I would say though is that higher price doesn't always equate to greater longevity. I used to own a Focus that came with Pirelli P6000 tyres (not cheap) and they wore horrifylingly quickly. Obviously in general terms softer compound=greater grip=quicker wear.

[NH Dan]

Originally Posted by allan40alt

You have four small areas, each the size of the sole of a shoe, keeping you on the road in all weathers. Isn't there something you can economise on rather than put cheap tyres on your wonderful fun machine? What's your life worth?

This is similar to the baby seat argument that I get sometimes. Someone will pay 20k for a car then moan that the isofix babyseat costs iro £160-£180. What price your or your childs safety??

As with pre-worns - why would you want them?? why would they have been taken off of a car in the first place? - cos they were worn?? in which case, you'd want them on your CTR why??

Years ago, I worked for a car dealer and we had a guy in for a service, he was advised that he really needed to change the cam belt within the next few thousand miles as it was at the age/mileage to do so and he was a high mileage/motorway driver. He didn't, needless to say, it came back in two weeks later on the back of an AA flatbed in pieces. Driving along the motorway at approx 80mph (his description) the belt went, blew bits of the engine thru the car, instant write off. All because he didnt want to spend the money at the service.

[Mr JP]

turns out, that after checking the tyres myself (now I know how to) ive got approx 3 and a bit mm left so what honda said after my service was utter garbage!

they said i had 1.6mm left on each (sound coinsidental?) I think not, scamming idiots, all so i buy new tyres from them, trying to con a 21yr old - i think not,

however when i do replace guys it will probably be the toyos, from what ive heard they are the best alternative to yoko when price is a factor.

[Unknownsoldier]

Are they taking the reading from the bump or the groove??? It may 1.6mm until the bump (which is then legal limit) or 1.6mm to the groove which is already on legal limit. If that made sense?

Tom

[Mr JP]

yeah tom there is approx 1.6mm then the indicator, BUT they shouldnt then be saying i need 2 tyres within 3-4 weeks and not making it clear how they were taking the reading imo,

plus they said they are at the legal limit which is lobbocks!

[Courant]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

This is similar to the baby seat argument that I get sometimes. Someone will pay 20k for a car then moan that the isofix babyseat costs iro £160-£180. What price your or your childs safety??

LOL, but, yeah, this is a *classic* sales technique too: sell the low ticket item after the high ticket and relative notions of value go out of the window. When I hear lines like "what's £x when you've just spent £y" my warning lights start flashing like mad, telling me I'm someone's trying to pull one on me!

Originally Posted by NH Dan

As with pre-worns - why would you want them?? why would they have been taken off of a car in the first place? - cos they were worn?? in which case, you'd want them on your CTR why??

You're right, it's not optimal. But if I was on a really tight budget and it literally came down to buying a budget set of tyres or a set of pre-worn top-brands in decent condition, I know which one I'd take.

Just because they're pre-worn doesn't mean they're in poor condition. I recently sold a set of 4 Dunlops off my old car with 5mm+ tread. The reason: logistics with a second set of alloys and a set of winter tyres I had fitted. It's quite common in countries that use winter tyres regularly to come across pre-worns in very decent conditions - I think Germany supplies this country with a lot of pre-worns for this reason.

I'll also soon be selling 2 Michelins with 5mm tread. The reason: the previous owner didn't rotate the tyres and the fronts are now worn; I don't want to drive a car with mixed front and rear tyres, so I'd rather sell the rears. They're in superb condition, no issues at all with someone else using them!

Courant

[Courant]

Originally Posted by Mr JP

however when i do replace guys it will probably be the toyos, from what ive heard they are the best alternative to yoko when price is a factor.

I've heard very mixed reports from friends with Toyos. I'd seriously consider the Falkens - they're very similar to the Dunlop Sport Maxx (owned by the same company, suspiciously similar tread pattern) and these have both decent grip and good life (my folks have had two sets, and have been very happy with them). Plus the price is very good, better than the Toyos.

Courant

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by Mr JP

yeah tom there is approx 1.6mm then the indicator, BUT they shouldnt then be saying i need 2 tyres within 3-4 weeks and not making it clear how they were taking the reading imo,

plus they said they are at the legal limit which is lobbocks!

I never understand how they say you'll need X tyres in X weeks, they told my mum that she'd need two new front tyres as they were near the legal limit, that was 2 years ago, and they're still well above!!!!!!!!

They way they tell you it makes you think your already on the limit, not above it.

Tom