Suspension Noisy rear suspension ?

Scarlets4444 · 25th June 2008, 17:25

Had my car back from the dealer yesterday after the handbrake mod was done, checks were also carried out on the rear shocks due to a loud knocking noise when reversing off my drive. He informed me that the shocks were not from the affected batch, the hatch was adjusted as he said this was probably the cause. As expected while reversing off my drive today the noise was still evident. If it is not the shocks any ideas on what it could be.

gordonh · 25th June 2008, 17:55

I have a similar problem and according to my Dealer they have other customers who also have this problem. What they have said is that Honda are currently reviewing this but have not yet issued any directives. This seems to be at variance with what I have read on here as it appears that some Dealers are fitting replacement shock absorbers.

Dimplyred · 25th June 2008, 18:01

Have a read of this, A single knock on 'take off' ,several owners have complained of this noise too.

Scarlets4444 · 25th June 2008, 18:01

Thanks for the reply, will be visiting the dealer again next week to see if anything else can be done. The only problem is that the noise disappears after driving for a short distance and they cannot replicate it. Will keep you posted.

KPNUT · 25th June 2008, 22:40

Spoke to my dealer yesterday about this, he said Honda were aware but had told them not to replace shocks as same problem would recur. They are working on a fix for it.

sambuca2907 · 27th June 2008, 23:23

Ha! Wow so it's not just me!

Mine was in for it's handbrake re-call on Wednesday - And while there I asked them to look at the rear suspension as it was STILL knocking - after they had apparently repaired this already in a previous re-call when I got the car...

When I picked the car up the salesman told me one of the rear seats was "loose"... and that this may have been causing the knocking... lol I told him that I very much knew about the constant problems Honda were having with the rear suspension and that I very much doubted this was to do with seats!
Then he told me they had "tightened" the rear shocks... this did nothing as I got the knocking when I pulled out of my driveway the next morning...!

fickel · 28th June 2008, 00:40

I had a knocking over pot holes, 1st thing in the morning and sometimes as I turned the engine off.
I tracked it down to the rear exhaust rubber hanger.
I wouldn't have thought a rubber hanger could be suspect but such is the shape and rigid nature that it allowed the exhaust hanging bracket to effectively knock on the chassis hanger. The Rigid rubber was acting as a solid 'hard 'piece of rubber and the knock was transferring straight through.
I slid it off and carved the two inner parts of the rubber that were touching away.
Hey presto ...........knocking gone.
Just another area you could explore

Boost · 6th July 2008, 04:06

I've the same problem on the rightback it's knocking on ever pot holes i drive, i must go on the 18th of August to my dealer for the handbreak, they will check it, but that noise isn't normal. I hope he can fix it.

Pottsy · 6th July 2008, 07:48

As fickel mentions, it is most likely to be the rubber exhaust hanger if it only happens when the car first moves. Suspension noise diagnosis - Civinfo Wiki

floppydonkey · 6th July 2008, 10:11

I have raised the same with my 10k dealer sold 3 door that I picked up on Monday (6 days ago) and the service guy gave a load of cack about it only seems to be reported with 5 door models.

He said he was not aware of 3 doors suffering the problem.

I think there is a nylon / soft material that the whole shock / spring sits in that is not stong enough, hence wear and then when the car sits and settled. When you move it.. crrreeeaaaaakkkk!

Charles_Harding · 6th July 2008, 11:39

Complained to my stealer about unwanted noises from Millie and they re-jigged something to do with the exhaust.

.....no cure here tho'!

......still has the same noise when coming off the drive.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be stupid,
Than to open it and remove all doubt!"

Colin McEntee · 18th July 2008, 15:07

After several months of bring my car to several dealers, I've had subframe bolts tightned and changed and the exhaust frame tighted, I've had front dampers replaced, and everytime I brought it to a dealer they insisted that they was nothing wrong with the rear suspension.

I phoned Honda Direct and they right away admitted there was a problem with the rear shocks and that the replacement ones would develop the same noise, they told me to tell the dealer this and that I would be notified when they came up with a permament fix.

Phoned the dealer they admitted that they were aware of the problem all along and that when a fix was released that I would be notified.

So if you have any bother, just ring Honda direct. The number is on the website.

3rd Honda · 18th July 2008, 15:26

Interesting - the story I was fed after the first time I had the rear shocks changed (with no problems when I first complained about a knocking noise) was that the replacements were an 'improved' type and wouldn't make the same noise (which they did after a bit).

When I then complained about this replacement set I was told that I already now had the improved type and Honda UK wouldn't authorise any further change.

After several further complaints it was agreed that they would be changed again (no further explanation other than that after my repeated complaint had been passed onto Honda they had finally let the dealer change then a second time) - no information on whether these were the same or 'further improved' - simply told that Honda had now agreed to my request for another change.

The noises again came back after a couple of months.

In fairness - it was only a minor annoyance and I was probably more annoyed by their attitude than by the noise, though it was worse when the car was laden.

I no longer have the Civic - but if I did - it would still be needing doing to satisfy me. I have a theory that they would just keep changing them reluctantly until the warranty ran out - then it would have been all my problem!

A question one should ask is "would a noisy shock absorber constitute an MOT failure?" I have a suspicion that without knowing why it was noisy, a conscientious MOT inspector might fail it on the grounds that the noise could indicate a problem developing internally or excessive wear.

Views?

jaysen · 19th July 2008, 17:59

HI.. i have the same problem with my wifes ES 1.8 5 door 6 months old. most mornings shes reverses of the drive & has a nasty creaking from rear. told the dealer twice now & still say theres no problem. glad to see that its a fault noticed by other owners & not me going mad.

25th June 2008, 17:25	#1 (permalink)
Scarlets4444 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd January 2008 Location: Llanelli, Wales Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Noisy rear suspension ? Had my car back from the dealer yesterday after the handbrake mod was done, checks were also carried out on the rear shocks due to a loud knocking noise when reversing off my drive. He informed me that the shocks were not from the affected batch, the hatch was adjusted as he said this was probably the cause. As expected while reversing off my drive today the noise was still evident. If it is not the shocks any ideas on what it could be.

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fickel Wheelnut Join Date: 16th May 2008 Location: West Yorks ...Near Lancs/N Yorks Border Posts: 89 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Look at this I had a knocking over pot holes, 1st thing in the morning and sometimes as I turned the engine off. I tracked it down to the rear exhaust rubber hanger. I wouldn't have thought a rubber hanger could be suspect but such is the shape and rigid nature that it allowed the exhaust hanging bracket to effectively knock on the chassis hanger. The Rigid rubber was acting as a solid 'hard 'piece of rubber and the knock was transferring straight through. I slid it off and carved the two inner parts of the rubber that were touching away. Hey presto ...........knocking gone. Just another area you could explore

6th July 2008, 04:06	#8 (permalink)
Boost Valve Cap Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Knocking Suspension I've the same problem on the rightback it's knocking on ever pot holes i drive, i must go on the 18th of August to my dealer for the handbreak, they will check it, but that noise isn't normal. I hope he can fix it.

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Colin McEntee Valve Cap Join Date: 18th July 2008 Location: Belfast, Ireland Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Rear Shocks After several months of bring my car to several dealers, I've had subframe bolts tightned and changed and the exhaust frame tighted, I've had front dampers replaced, and everytime I brought it to a dealer they insisted that they was nothing wrong with the rear suspension. I phoned Honda Direct and they right away admitted there was a problem with the rear shocks and that the replacement ones would develop the same noise, they told me to tell the dealer this and that I would be notified when they came up with a permament fix. Phoned the dealer they admitted that they were aware of the problem all along and that when a fix was released that I would be notified. So if you have any bother, just ring Honda direct. The number is on the website.

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gordonh Valve Cap Join Date: 7th March 2007 Location: Drayton UK Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have a similar problem and according to my Dealer they have other customers who also have this problem. What they have said is that Honda are currently reviewing this but have not yet issued any directives. This seems to be at variance with what I have read on here as it appears that some Dealers are fitting replacement shock absorbers.

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Dimplyred Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 19 Thanked 133 Times in 132 Posts iTrader: (0)	Have a read of this, A single knock on 'take off' ,several owners have complained of this noise too.

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Scarlets4444 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd January 2008 Location: Llanelli, Wales Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the reply, will be visiting the dealer again next week to see if anything else can be done. The only problem is that the noise disappears after driving for a short distance and they cannot replicate it. Will keep you posted.

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KPNUT Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd January 2008 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Spoke to my dealer yesterday about this, he said Honda were aware but had told them not to replace shocks as same problem would recur. They are working on a fix for it.

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sambuca2907 S29 AWS Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 17th September 2007 Location: SW London Posts: 416 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ha! Wow so it's not just me! Mine was in for it's handbrake re-call on Wednesday - And while there I asked them to look at the rear suspension as it was STILL knocking - after they had apparently repaired this already in a previous re-call when I got the car... When I picked the car up the salesman told me one of the rear seats was "loose"... and that this may have been causing the knocking... lol I told him that I very much knew about the constant problems Honda were having with the rear suspension and that I very much doubted this was to do with seats! Then he told me they had "tightened" the rear shocks... this did nothing as I got the knocking when I pulled out of my driveway the next morning...!

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,486 Thanks: 22 Thanked 170 Times in 100 Posts iTrader: (0)	As fickel mentions, it is most likely to be the rubber exhaust hanger if it only happens when the car first moves. Suspension noise diagnosis - Civinfo Wiki

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floppydonkey Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd June 2008 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have raised the same with my 10k dealer sold 3 door that I picked up on Monday (6 days ago) and the service guy gave a load of cack about it only seems to be reported with 5 door models. He said he was not aware of 3 doors suffering the problem. I think there is a nylon / soft material that the whole shock / spring sits in that is not stong enough, hence wear and then when the car sits and settled. When you move it.. crrreeeaaaaakkkk!

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,303 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	Complained to my stealer about unwanted noises from Millie and they re-jigged something to do with the exhaust. .....no cure here tho'! ......still has the same noise when coming off the drive. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be stupid, Than to open it and remove all doubt!"

18th July 2008, 15:26	#13 (permalink)
3rd Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th July 2006 Location: Tewkesbury Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Interesting - the story I was fed after the first time I had the rear shocks changed (with no problems when I first complained about a knocking noise) was that the replacements were an 'improved' type and wouldn't make the same noise (which they did after a bit). When I then complained about this replacement set I was told that I already now had the improved type and Honda UK wouldn't authorise any further change. After several further complaints it was agreed that they would be changed again (no further explanation other than that after my repeated complaint had been passed onto Honda they had finally let the dealer change then a second time) - no information on whether these were the same or 'further improved' - simply told that Honda had now agreed to my request for another change. The noises again came back after a couple of months. In fairness - it was only a minor annoyance and I was probably more annoyed by their attitude than by the noise, though it was worse when the car was laden. I no longer have the Civic - but if I did - it would still be needing doing to satisfy me. I have a theory that they would just keep changing them reluctantly until the warranty ran out - then it would have been all my problem! A question one should ask is "would a noisy shock absorber constitute an MOT failure?" I have a suspicion that without knowing why it was noisy, a conscientious MOT inspector might fail it on the grounds that the noise could indicate a problem developing internally or excessive wear. Views?

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jaysen Valve Cap Join Date: 20th November 2007 Location: sunny manchester Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	HI.. i have the same problem with my wifes ES 1.8 5 door 6 months old. most mornings shes reverses of the drive & has a nasty creaking from rear. told the dealer twice now & still say theres no problem. glad to see that its a fault noticed by other owners & not me going mad.