Tyre Choice Best tyre brand for the Civ? (split topic) - Page 4

ritchie_perriam · 19th December 2007, 19:32

thats a really good chart! will be saving that 1!

slick · 19th December 2007, 22:27

i had a what car mag a while back which did road tests on a variety of top tyres, and the results were interesting,

sad thing is i can't remember what i did with the mag, and secondly i can''t re,e,ber what came out on top

Morris Minor · 19th December 2007, 23:10

very helpful Slick, thanks

Woette · 20th December 2007, 08:07

"The Pilot Sport PS2 is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."

its defenitely freezing here in the belgian country

(-4 degrees)

slick · 20th December 2007, 08:24

the big thing we noticed on tyres with the mr2 was that tyres like the re04's had stiff tyre walls, made for good feedback when driving, but did tend to tramline. good dry hold but quick breakaway.

the toyo proxies were a good all round tyre but had soft tyre walls, which led to more tyre roll, so the car had more lean in the corners, but once you got used to it, wasn't to bad. no tramline, good hold wet and dry, progressive breakaway.

eagle f1 were similar to the toyo's but had a very soft tyre wall, i didn't like them on the mr2, or on the 306 gti6, they seemed more prone to puncturing. also they don't stay in their optimum performance zone as long as the toyo's. i.e. when you wear them in they are a bit slidy, but then have good grip, but this wears off by about 10,000 miles. the toyo's seemed to keep the samehold all the way through to about 20,000 miles.

hankook tyres got a good review with some drivers.

also noticed alot of these new korean tyres, that have funky tread patterns. and cheap prices, but i just don't have the balls to try them. (but then thats how toyo started)

i'm finding this quiet interesting, finding what will the best for the civ

M99TT P · 11th February 2008, 22:17

I have put the TOYO T1-R on mine and I am very happy with them, good tyres in both wet and dry.

Also cut down the road noise a bit.

ctrdaveg · 13th February 2008, 19:46

why have a debate about Subaru's and high performance cars when the Civic is in the original question???

Why have a picture of a TT on a CIVIC web site

Vidal Buffoon · 13th February 2008, 22:06

The old primacy are crap, however the new asymmetric ones which are fitted to new Civics are excellent. One of the best tyres I've had the good fortune to drive on.

Beware slating your tyres at the moment though the roads are terrible, full of salt, grease and other muck. If it wasn't for the DSC on my MX5 I would be driving sideways on most corners.

I'm considering giving a set of Nokian NRY a try, they're supposed to be a high performance tyre suitable for all temperatures (not a snow tyre). Although I might end up with another set of michelins but a more sporty model.

robbo51 · 13th February 2008, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrdaveg

why have a debate about Subaru's and high performance cars when the Civic is in the original question???

Why have a picture of a TT on a CIVIC web site

What???
This a discussion about tyres and member's experiences with different brands.
Therefore a valid inclusion..
Bizzare post that ctraveg

ciderman4 · 14th February 2008, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

What???
This a discussion about tyres and member's experiences with different brands.
Therefore a valid inclusion..
Bizzare post that ctraveg

Personally I have to agree with ctrdaveg, it does say "Civ" in the title and therefore, any experiences with such and such a tyre on their Scooby, Evo, Bentley Continental, HGV Lorry, Tractor etc. etc. aren't relevant.

You could put the same tyre brand on two different vehicles and they "could" behave in a different manner. The only comparisons that are relevant (in my opinion) are experiences with front wheel drive hatchbacks with similar power output.

Pottsy · 14th February 2008, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrdaveg

why have a debate about Subaru's and high performance cars when the Civic is in the original question???

Because the tyre type fitted to the Civic also appears on performance cars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrdaveg

Why have a picture of a TT on a CIVIC web site

See this.

ciderman4 · 14th February 2008, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Because the tyre type fitted to the Civic also appears on performance cars.

Still irrelevant imo unless you are generalising. For a true assessment you need to have tested the tyres on a similar vehicle, preferably the same vehicle.
You're looking at 4 wheel drive or rear wheel drive compared to front wheel drive, 300 bhp compared to 138 bhp, different handling characteristics, chassis etc. etc. etc. Therefore a tyre that performs well on one vehicle may be considered mediocre on another.

I've got Michelin Pilot Sports on my push bike.

Vidal Buffoon · 15th February 2008, 06:13

Given that so few people have posted about other brands on their Civic, perhaps due to most cars being so new as not to have had new tyres, perhaps the point people are making is that if the tyre can cope well on a high performance car then its hardly going to be pushed on a Civic. That to me would seem a valid point, hardly irrelevant.

You could dismiss most comparisons on the basis that they are 'not the same' - new tyres compared with old, tyres fitted in winter compared to summer. Given that this subject is so subjective anyway any comparison could be valid.

ciderman4 · 15th February 2008, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vidal Buffoon

Given that this subject is so subjective anyway any comparison could be valid.

Agreed, the key word is subjective and it's personal opinion as to what characteristics individuals want from their tyres.

Vidal Buffoon · 15th February 2008, 10:52

What I can say is I have experienced Pilot Primacys on other cars and they didn't seem to grip, but the new model primacys which are on my 57 Civic EX are excellent, it takes a lot to get them to slip, and when they do is a gradual break away.

alanwalne · 15th February 2008, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vidal Buffoon

What I can say is I have experienced Pilot Primacys on other cars and they didn't seem to grip, but the new model primacys which are on my 57 Civic EX are excellent, it takes a lot to get them to slip, and when they do is a gradual break away.

I have replaced the Bridgestones that came on my 16" wheels with Premacy HP's (not the Pilot Premacys) and I feel there is more grip (slides less in corners) even on dry roads, but there is a little less steering feel. However the less feel could be due to more tread.

ctrdaveg · 17th February 2008, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

What???
This a discussion about tyres and member's experiences with different brands.
Therefore a valid inclusion..
Bizzare post that ctraveg

I started viewing this forumn and never noticed that there was 4 other pages to view before i made the comment.

I was referring too the S*** that was going on, on the first page, this is a civic web site and nothing else.

ctrdaveg · 17th February 2008, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Because the tyre type fitted to the Civic also appears on performance cars.

See this.

Pictures like these should be banned or locked out of this web site, Filth

robbo51 · 17th February 2008, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrdaveg

Pictures like these should be banned or locked out of this web site, Filth

Pictures of what??

Pottsy · 17th February 2008, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrdaveg

Pictures like these should be banned or locked out of this web site, Filth

No - we encourage talk of all sorts of cars here. If the topic relates to the Civic, then it's fine in the "Honda Civic" section. If not, it goes elsewhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

Pictures of what??

The Audi TT in ads sig. See first post and this.

15th February 2008, 06:13	#73 (permalink)
Vidal Buffoon Valve Cap Join Date: 1st January 2008 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Given that so few people have posted about other brands on their Civic, perhaps due to most cars being so new as not to have had new tyres, perhaps the point people are making is that if the tyre can cope well on a high performance car then its hardly going to be pushed on a Civic. That to me would seem a valid point, hardly irrelevant. You could dismiss most comparisons on the basis that they are 'not the same' - new tyres compared with old, tyres fitted in winter compared to summer. Given that this subject is so subjective anyway any comparison could be valid. Last edited by Vidal Buffoon; 15th February 2008 at 06:19.

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19th December 2007, 19:32	#61 (permalink)
ritchie_perriam Tyre Shredder Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 30th November 2007 Location: guildford, surrey Posts: 284 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	thats a really good chart! will be saving that 1!

19th December 2007, 22:27	#62 (permalink)
slick Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 14th December 2007 Location: Ipswich, UK Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i had a what car mag a while back which did road tests on a variety of top tyres, and the results were interesting, sad thing is i can't remember what i did with the mag, and secondly i can''t re,e,ber what came out on top

19th December 2007, 23:10	#63 (permalink)
Morris Minor Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 7th May 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	very helpful Slick, thanks

20th December 2007, 08:07	#64 (permalink)
Woette Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Posts: 284 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"The Pilot Sport PS2 is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." its defenitely freezing here in the belgian country (-4 degrees)

20th December 2007, 08:24	#65 (permalink)
slick Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 14th December 2007 Location: Ipswich, UK Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the big thing we noticed on tyres with the mr2 was that tyres like the re04's had stiff tyre walls, made for good feedback when driving, but did tend to tramline. good dry hold but quick breakaway. the toyo proxies were a good all round tyre but had soft tyre walls, which led to more tyre roll, so the car had more lean in the corners, but once you got used to it, wasn't to bad. no tramline, good hold wet and dry, progressive breakaway. eagle f1 were similar to the toyo's but had a very soft tyre wall, i didn't like them on the mr2, or on the 306 gti6, they seemed more prone to puncturing. also they don't stay in their optimum performance zone as long as the toyo's. i.e. when you wear them in they are a bit slidy, but then have good grip, but this wears off by about 10,000 miles. the toyo's seemed to keep the samehold all the way through to about 20,000 miles. hankook tyres got a good review with some drivers. also noticed alot of these new korean tyres, that have funky tread patterns. and cheap prices, but i just don't have the balls to try them. (but then thats how toyo started) i'm finding this quiet interesting, finding what will the best for the civ

11th February 2008, 22:17	#66 (permalink)
M99TT P Valve Cap Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Devon, Uk Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have put the TOYO T1-R on mine and I am very happy with them, good tyres in both wet and dry. Also cut down the road noise a bit.

13th February 2008, 19:46	#67 (permalink)
ctrdaveg Type R-GT, R-11859 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Nantwich, Cheshire Posts: 412 Thanks: 13 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	why have a debate about Subaru's and high performance cars when the Civic is in the original question??? Why have a picture of a TT on a CIVIC web site

13th February 2008, 22:06	#68 (permalink)
Vidal Buffoon Valve Cap Join Date: 1st January 2008 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The old primacy are crap, however the new asymmetric ones which are fitted to new Civics are excellent. One of the best tyres I've had the good fortune to drive on. Beware slating your tyres at the moment though the roads are terrible, full of salt, grease and other muck. If it wasn't for the DSC on my MX5 I would be driving sideways on most corners. I'm considering giving a set of Nokian NRY a try, they're supposed to be a high performance tyre suitable for all temperatures (not a snow tyre). Although I might end up with another set of michelins but a more sporty model.

15th February 2008, 10:52	#75 (permalink)
Vidal Buffoon Valve Cap Join Date: 1st January 2008 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What I can say is I have experienced Pilot Primacys on other cars and they didn't seem to grip, but the new model primacys which are on my 57 Civic EX are excellent, it takes a lot to get them to slip, and when they do is a gradual break away.