Tyre Life Uneven tyre wear - Page 2

PTR · 22nd January 2007, 21:03

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

I do hope u r referring to my driving

drivingstyle of course...!!

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 21:04

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Originally Posted by PTR

drivingstyle of course...!!

Yes i am very very fast.......

PTR · 22nd January 2007, 21:07

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

Yes i am very very fast.......

I know.... a girlie who uses the REV lights! wow!

not all the men use it!

(I wish I could already get my car to use it!

)

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTR

I know.... a girlie who uses the REV lights! wow!

not all the men use it!

(I wish I could already get my car to use it!

)

Oh yes have to use the rev lights.....
.....no point in having them otherwise

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 21:12

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

I do hope u r referring to my driving

treading on dangerous ground here!!

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 21:13

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Originally Posted by St Thomas

treading on dangerous ground here!!

Haha...very good....

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 21:31

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

Haha...very good....

Well, have to keep up a good pattern of replies

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 21:32

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Originally Posted by St Thomas

Well, have to keep up a good pattern of replies

I never "tyre" of your humour lol

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 21:34

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

I never "tyre" of your humour lol

Well I don't want you to sign off deflated do I?

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 21:35

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

I never "tyre" of your humour lol

Pity there is non to spare at times.

boltonbrowny · 22nd January 2007, 21:41

will you two get a "grip"

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 21:42

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Originally Posted by boltonbrowny

will you two get a "grip"

Ok, I know when I have been punctured!

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 21:58

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Originally Posted by St Thomas

Ok, I know when I have been punctured!

U r 'drivin' me to de 'spare'

St Thomas · 22nd January 2007, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarahjo

U r 'drivin' me to de 'spare'

some people just send you up the (side) wall!!!!!

czechplastik · 22nd January 2007, 22:52

I leave the site for a few hours and look what happens!

sarahjo · 22nd January 2007, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

I leave the site for a few hours and look what happens!

Wasn't me....i didn't start it

Miggins · 22nd January 2007, 22:54

My understanding is that when tyres wear on the outside it is either a geometry issue or due to sliding the front in corners - oops! If the issue relates to the inside then there is either a geometry issue or something is loose - during heavy braking the wheels are pushed back and too much toe out results which causes excessive inner tyre wear (don't believe this is the issue).

I am far from smooth and I know my driving leaves a lot to be desired but I do know how to drive smooth when necessary and could definately make my tyres last further than what they have. But I am still surprised at how quickly they disappeared - tyre depot said 20K from PS2's - I'm lucky if I've had 10k with a rotation!!!!!

One thing I believe is responsible for the heavy wear is the EBA system. I know how to brake hard without going through tyres, however, the EBA applies the brakes much harder than I wan't and regularly implements the ABS when I know its not required for a smooth but hard stop!

The inner wear after admittedly a basic tracking check does also surprise me. Yes I know basic tracking checks are sometimes far from reliable but to cause as much wear as has happened - anythings possible!

CivPilot · 23rd January 2007, 06:38

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Originally Posted by Miggins

My understanding is that when tyres wear on the outside it is either a geometry issue or due to sliding the front in corners - oops! If the issue relates to the inside then there is either a geometry issue or something is loose - during heavy braking the wheels are pushed back and too much toe out results which causes excessive inner tyre wear (don't believe this is the issue).

I am far from smooth and I know my driving leaves a lot to be desired but I do know how to drive smooth when necessary and could definately make my tyres last further than what they have. But I am still surprised at how quickly they disappeared - tyre depot said 20K from PS2's - I'm lucky if I've had 10k with a rotation!!!!!

One thing I believe is responsible for the heavy wear is the EBA system. I know how to brake hard without going through tyres, however, the EBA applies the brakes much harder than I wan't and regularly implements the ABS when I know its not required for a smooth but hard stop!

The inner wear after admittedly a basic tracking check does also surprise me. Yes I know basic tracking checks are sometimes far from reliable but to cause as much wear as has happened - anythings possible!

If you know how to drive smooth why don't you?

I drive smooth and when being followed by a mate I always have to remember to drive to thier ability, not my own. Reason being is when you truely drive smooth you are actually erm.... "making more progress"

than the guy following. Being smooth is all about getting your braking done before the corner so you can be back on the power gentle through it, never being in a position that you have to emergency brake (this means leaving that gap), always understanding the conditions and driving accordingly etc

Smooth & gentle=fast.
going fast & Braking hard=sloooooow.

Back to the tyre issue, I really think that a geometry check is in order, I am honestly shocked that some are managing to wear out front tyres in under 10k, let alone under 7k. Either there is something severely wrong with the geometry on your cars or you really really need to go on an advanced drving course of some sort.
Driving fast and ragged enough to destroy tyres in 6k on the public roads is pretty dangerous, thats why I think it just has to be a geometry based issue.
this is NOT a design flaw with the car and not a huge world wide problem, its only a few experiencing this so maybe there are a few "friday" build cars in this thread?.

ps. Ignore 350z tyres, or any other car for that matter. Nothing to do with a Civic and they have a completely different geometry setup (some cars have camber added for a sharper front end giving uneven tyre wear

)

Kremmen · 23rd January 2007, 07:01

I've had a reply to my enquiry with Tony at WIM and the Civic is not on his list of cars that need urgent geometery attention because the factory settings cause premature tyre wear.

CivPilot · 23rd January 2007, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Kremmen

I've had a reply to my enquiry with Tony at WIM and the Civic is not on his list of cars that need urgent geometery attention because the factory settings cause premature tyre wear.

so are you saying that Tony reckons the factory settings do cause excessive tyre wear or don't?
Does his list only include cars that have excessive tyre wear from the factory? So by not appearing on his list the Civic set up is ok (something I have found personally) and premature tyre wear is down to the driver?

Your wording is very confusing due to to the fact it's one long unbroken sentence with no grammar to speak of and no breaks in what you are saying so it could appear to some that the meaning is not what you mean it to be or that what you mean is actually lost by the missing full stops and or commas this is the reason I ask you to clarify the points you have already made as the wording is written in such a way as it is not clear what you mean

22nd January 2007, 22:54	#37 (permalink)
Miggins Enthusiastic Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 25th August 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 531 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	My understanding is that when tyres wear on the outside it is either a geometry issue or due to sliding the front in corners - oops! If the issue relates to the inside then there is either a geometry issue or something is loose - during heavy braking the wheels are pushed back and too much toe out results which causes excessive inner tyre wear (don't believe this is the issue). I am far from smooth and I know my driving leaves a lot to be desired but I do know how to drive smooth when necessary and could definately make my tyres last further than what they have. But I am still surprised at how quickly they disappeared - tyre depot said 20K from PS2's - I'm lucky if I've had 10k with a rotation!!!!! One thing I believe is responsible for the heavy wear is the EBA system. I know how to brake hard without going through tyres, however, the EBA applies the brakes much harder than I wan't and regularly implements the ABS when I know its not required for a smooth but hard stop! The inner wear after admittedly a basic tracking check does also surprise me. Yes I know basic tracking checks are sometimes far from reliable but to cause as much wear as has happened - anythings possible! Last edited by Miggins; 22nd January 2007 at 22:56.

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Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've had a reply to my enquiry with Tony at WIM and the Civic is not on his list of cars that need urgent geometery attention because the factory settings cause premature tyre wear.