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Just found these on eBay £151 all set up easy to install as mine offside suspensions leaking went today at kwitfit and they quoted £140 each so defiantly they not installing the very best or genuine suspension in so decided to do myself what you guys recommend ?


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My understanding of pre-assembled struts and springs are that they are perfectly functional and safe but never going to be as good as dedicated seperate items from high end brands when it comes to ride comfort or longevity.

If my car was 12 years old and I wanted a quick freshen up to get it through the MOT and another few years use, yeah I'd get them. If I wanted to see a drastic improvement for a long term commitment I'd be getting a tailored set up. We'll known brands do tend to be more expensive but for good reason.

If considering the 'pre-assembled' option I've heard that Monroe have decent offerings. I'm not sure if they do civic struts however.

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Don't skimp on suspension parts, the car will be bouncing everywhere after a few thousand miles.

Which model do you own? For a 1.8 Civic, front OEM Sachs dampers are £70 each, and rears are £50 each. If you want to save money, replace the leaking shock with an OEM damper rather than buying cheap parts.
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So are anschler shock absorber better or worse than Sachs ! I was wondering this as I've got them on the front and there slightly bouncy!!

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So are anschler shock absorber better or worse than Sachs ! I was wondering this as I've got them on the front and there slightly bouncy!!

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I think another thing to consider is what the composition of the shock is; oil or gas...

My originals were Sachs oil filled struts and they were rock hard, I swapped out to Sachs gas struts (admittedly on new springs as well) and it transformed the car. A lot softer and more comfortable.

Try the bounce test. The car should depress, rise and settle in a 3 step motion. If it bounces more than that then the dampers are worn regardless of brand.

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It could also be that the dampers aren't matched to the springs, rather than being worn out (if they are fairly new).

Anschler is a good enough brand, so they shouldn't be any different to standard. However, if you fitted 1.8 petrol dampers to the front of your 2.2 CDTi for example, then the ride would be very bouncy, as the springs on the diesel are stiffer due to increased weight over the front end (hence require different dampers).
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Monroe do make them at around £38 each for fronts. Just had one replaced on mine at a garage for £120 including a new drop link.
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I think another thing to consider is what the composition of the shock is; oil or gas...

My originals were Sachs oil filled struts and they were rock hard, I swapped out to Sachs gas struts (admittedly on new springs as well) and it transformed the car. A lot softer and more comfortable.

Try the bounce test. The car should depress, rise and settle in a 3 step motion. If it bounces more than that then the dampers are worn regardless of brand.

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Hi, i need new shock for the front and i was thinking to go for SACHS, but after reading this i have some questions... Mine is a 1.8 sport, low height and hard suspension from factory and now all of SACHS shock is pressure of gas, what does this mean? Will my car now be higher and softer suspension?
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I don't know what the exact spec of the original ride height was... but the new shocks were exactly the same size as the old ones that I ripped out, the springs I put on lowered the car by 15mm.

Still improved it despite being lowered, I'm all for a firm ride but the originals jus banged everywhere .

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I think another thing to consider is what the composition of the shock is; oil or gas...

My originals were Sachs oil filled struts and they were rock hard, I swapped out to Sachs gas struts (admittedly on new springs as well) and it transformed the car. A lot softer and more comfortable.


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I'm very interested in this. Are these relatively new on the market?

I ended up with coilovers cos I hated the OEM shocks' crashiness.

Id like to go back to OEM parts eventually (bit of a pain stripping out engine bay to get access to top mounts for setting the camber), if I though the gas shocks were a major improvement on the original oils then I'd happily fit them.
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I'm very interested in this. Are these relatively new on the market?

I ended up with coilovers cos I hated the OEM shocks' crashiness.

Id like to go back to OEM parts eventually (bit of a pain stripping out engine bay to get access to top mounts for setting the camber), if I though the gas shocks were a major improvement on the original oils then I'd happily fit them.
No bolt on magic carpet ride I'm afraid... but it was a very noticeable difference and all of a sudden the digits on the receipts didn't matter any more.

I'm no expert but I bought gas struts and the original shocks I pulled out were misting oil. So I can only assume that's what they were filled with 😂

I'm pretty sure the 9G civic's run on a gas strut setup and they are a lot more comfortable (mine is similar in comparison having been out in both). Fully independent would be nice but can't have everything I guess 😂

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So you reckon your 8 gen rides almost as good as a 9 gen? And I've only heard good things about the 9g's ride quality.

After doing a Google search I can't find any other posts about these shocks on these forums.

Definetly keeping an eye on these for the future!
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So you reckon your 8 gen rides almost as good as a 9 gen? And I've only heard good things about the 9g's ride quality.

After doing a Google search I can't find any other posts about these shocks on these forums.

Definetly keeping an eye on these for the future!
I do personally, someone may disagree. But having been in both I can say it's pretty damn similar.

Nothing but chuffed with mine!

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Can I ask where you got them? And how much they set you back?

I'm presuming you bought a full set.

Potentially great news - only took them 10 years to finally sort out the ride on the 8th gen!

I hope they're available for the diesel!
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Can I ask where you got them? And how much they set you back?

I'm presuming you bought a full set.

Potentially great news - only took them 10 years to finally sort out the ride on the 8th gen!

I hope they're available for the diesel!
Just Cox. Full set, though I had to purchase via their sales email address, was slightly dear as they were out of stock and had to source from Honda 😒 the shocks probably set me back half a bag of sand as a result

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Springs as well?

I have the Eibach lowering springs on my old OEM shocks.

I've been through the mill as far as suspension goes with my car - even finding a garage to fit coilovers properly was a trial (and then I had a brand new set fail on me after 1 day on the car!)

Hearing about these gas shocks is great, would like to read a few more reviews though.
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Springs as well?

I have the Eibach lowering springs on my old OEM shocks.

I've been through the mill as far as suspension goes with my car - even finding a garage to fit coilovers properly was a trial (and then I had a brand new set fail on me after 1 day on the car!)

Hearing about these gas shocks is great, would like to read a few more reviews though.
Springs not included, I've just gone down to grays for work this morning and the road surfaces here are naff. Didn't notice anywhere near as much as before !!

Edit* eibach pro-kit here

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Just took a look at my original OEM shocks made by Sachs and it appears they too are gas shocks.

But looking online the recommended Sachs have a blue sticker on them so they might be an upgrade?
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And typing in a search in Euro Car Parts for shocks for the 9th gen gives the exact same shock absorber.
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