Spare Shredded tyres

ben hinkley · 27th February 2007, 21:05

OK you've all been debating the pro's and con's of spare wheels, goo, gunk and run flats. But how many people have been stranded because their tyre was shredded and could not be repaired. Perhaps we could have a vote and see if it is as common as we think it might be, Or have honda done their homework!

Bungle · 27th February 2007, 22:31

I have never seen a torn or shredded tyre in my life.

Does that count?

apemonkeyman · 28th February 2007, 00:02

In my 11 years of driving I have had to change wheels 3 times, all on my 97 Civic. In all 3 cases the culprit was debris on the motorway (at 90mph) or road, & in all 3 cases resulted in 10mm+ gashes in the side wall.

I carry a space-saver.

rmh999 · 28th February 2007, 00:05

I have shredded one..... barbed wire on the inside of a mini roundabout...blew out at low speed as it ripped the sidewall.... but it was one in a million.....

did enjoy asking the tyre place to repair it.......

I do a lot of motorway miles so had the spare in the Peugeot (never used it in 70000 miles) and now in the Civic....

Cad · 28th February 2007, 00:53

I shredded my inside front tyre, in my Mondeo, when I ran over a trolley jack that had fallen off a lorry onto the inside lane of the M6. No amount of gunge would have fixed that!

The tyre was absolutely torn away from the wheel and could not have been repaired (it also frightened the life out of me ...it was dark and raining).

Having said that, it's the only time it's happened to me in almost 30 years of driving.

TTDegs · 28th February 2007, 02:22

I've had (from memory) 2 punctures in 20 years of driving.

both a single nail / screw.

both were slow enough that I was able to (carefully and slowly!) get to the nearest garage when I noticed, pump it up, then get to a trye place.

Kremmen · 28th February 2007, 08:01

I've also only had 2 punctures in the last 10 years or so and the first one would definately not have been fixed by the kit.

Puncture happened on a motorway and by the time I had realised and pulled to the hard shoulder the sidewall was split.

= I'm getting the spare.

l-noel · 28th February 2007, 09:24

I'm driving since more than 20 years now... Had three punctures up to now, all where slow enough to let me park in safe place and to change the wheel. Never had a problem with the last car, spare wheel never used (and it was an alloy !)... So I'm happy with the system honda give us.

If I've a major problem with a tyre I call my SOS N° and all problems are solved in less than 30mn.

pcr · 28th February 2007, 10:09

In 40 years driving I must have had 20 puctures, two of these would not have been repairable with the gunk. I got the spare wheel for peace of mind, just like 40 years membership of the AA, I have never called them out but still join.

CrazyHawk · 28th February 2007, 10:52

Had a blow-out at 70 in the fast lane about 15 years ago, the tyre was a bit shredded after that. Since then, just a couple of your average punctures from metal studs and plastics bits in the sidewall.
PS: I don't like the way that car manufacturers are skimping on space saver tyres for the sake of space and weight, and replacing them with cans of gunk.

lippy · 28th February 2007, 11:35

Four years ago when I had my Focus I remember thinking I could hear a hissing sound at a junction not long after going round a large roundabout and thinking that the steering felt very light. Stopped, got out to find a piece of angle iron protruding from the offside front tyre. If I pulled it the hissing got worse so I left it in and managed to get to the ford garage about a mile down the road.

There's no way the 'get you home' system would have coped with that.

I have also had a large nail giving a slow puncture but just changed wheels.

I would like a spare wheel but the cost is putting me off a bit - I have accord alloys on my civvie and a spare wheel and tyre will cost approx £300. So if the worst happens it will be a call out job to honda assist.

generationgav · 28th February 2007, 15:08

I've had 2 punctures in my 18 months of driving!

both just screws in the wheel though.
On leaving the car park at work my collegue managed to drive over a piece of metal and rip is tyre open; had a spare but I don't think gunk would have worked.

Lippy - the space saver should work anyway!! You realise that Honda assist may get you home but they won't be able to sort your tyre out?

l-noel · 28th February 2007, 15:21

I've ask around me to know how many puncture/severe puncture/destroy tyres people have met during they driving life. For the younger one (less than 30...) most of them no puncture at all, some with one or two... The older one may have had more puncture, but have seen an huge improvement the last 10 years with no or one minor puncture...

I'm maybe wrong but reading this thread it may occure that puncture risk is higher on UK roads ... It's a feeling I've no figures to prove it.

Quote:

generationgav
Lippy - the space saver should work anyway!! You realise that Honda assist may get you home but they won't be able to sort your tyre out?

I've ask my dealer what will do Honda assist in this case. He told me that they must do whatever possible is to allow us to carry on our trip. Ok in case of very bad luck (destroying your tyre at 3:00 AM in the middle of nowhere) They take you to an hotel untill your car is repaired... maybe not the best solution but against it's a quastion of statistic. Zero risk dont exist so we have to live with

Maldax · 28th February 2007, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy

I would like a spare wheel but the cost is putting me off a bit - I have accord alloys on my civvie and a spare wheel and tyre will cost approx £300. So if the worst happens it will be a call out job to honda assist.

The Space saver will still work, yes it looks like you are driving around with a wheel stolen from a 1954 Beige Morris Minor but it will get you home!

lippy · 28th February 2007, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

Lippy - the space saver should work anyway!! You realise that Honda assist may get you home but they won't be able to sort your tyre out?

GG I don't have a space saver either - I have a completely empty boot except for the gunk and tyre inflater in the side pockets. The get you home kit wouldnt have worked for either of the punctures I had. So if necessary I'd get honda assist to take me to a tyre place at my destination or nearby.

Reading this thread again is bringing me nearer to getting that spare wheel......

3rd Honda · 28th February 2007, 23:08

I had two punctures on my previous Civic - both required new tyres. One would not have been fixable with the gunk, the other might have been.

In over 30 years driving (about 15 punctures in total) - I would say that 50% of punctures have been unrepairable. I believe that only a few of the unrepairables would have been fixable with the gunk.

I would not drive a long distance without a spare wheel. Just too much inconvenience if it can't be changed - especially on a Sunday!

Kremmen · 1st March 2007, 07:57

Or Xmas day, Boxing Day, etc

For the sake of £100 I now have 2 options of a fix.

Peace of mind for me

Vivienne Bird · 1st March 2007, 16:05

Had shred on M5 took 5 hours to get going again. Got a spare now!

frogger · 1st March 2007, 18:18

In 17 years I've had 4 3 would have been repairable with the gunk and one shredded on my discovery which is not bad realy as for the first 10 years I was a field engineer doing about 50K miles a year these days I tend to average about 30K a year so thats well over half a million miles!

okehciv · 4th March 2007, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Or Xmas day, Boxing Day, etc

For the sake of £100 I now have 2 options of a fix.

Peace of mind for me

I agree with Kremmen,peace of mind for £100

27th February 2007, 21:05	#1 (permalink)
ben hinkley Wheelnut Join Date: 26th January 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Shredded tyres OK you've all been debating the pro's and con's of spare wheels, goo, gunk and run flats. But how many people have been stranded because their tyre was shredded and could not be repaired. Perhaps we could have a vote and see if it is as common as we think it might be, Or have honda done their homework!

28th February 2007, 10:09	#9 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 850 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	In 40 years driving I must have had 20 puctures, two of these would not have been repairable with the gunk. I got the spare wheel for peace of mind, just like 40 years membership of the AA, I have never called them out but still join. Last edited by pcr; 28th February 2007 at 10:41.

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,222 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have never seen a torn or shredded tyre in my life. Does that count?

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apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 671 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	In my 11 years of driving I have had to change wheels 3 times, all on my 97 Civic. In all 3 cases the culprit was debris on the motorway (at 90mph) or road, & in all 3 cases resulted in 10mm+ gashes in the side wall. I carry a space-saver.

28th February 2007, 00:05	#4 (permalink)
rmh999 Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd August 2006 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 168 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I have shredded one..... barbed wire on the inside of a mini roundabout...blew out at low speed as it ripped the sidewall.... but it was one in a million..... did enjoy asking the tyre place to repair it....... I do a lot of motorway miles so had the spare in the Peugeot (never used it in 70000 miles) and now in the Civic....

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Cad estranged Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: Upstairs Posts: 391 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I shredded my inside front tyre, in my Mondeo, when I ran over a trolley jack that had fallen off a lorry onto the inside lane of the M6. No amount of gunge would have fixed that! The tyre was absolutely torn away from the wheel and could not have been repaired (it also frightened the life out of me ...it was dark and raining). Having said that, it's the only time it's happened to me in almost 30 years of driving.

28th February 2007, 02:22	#6 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,634 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I've had (from memory) 2 punctures in 20 years of driving. both a single nail / screw. both were slow enough that I was able to (carefully and slowly!) get to the nearest garage when I noticed, pump it up, then get to a trye place.

28th February 2007, 08:01	#7 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 3,096 Thanks: 20 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've also only had 2 punctures in the last 10 years or so and the first one would definately not have been fixed by the kit. Puncture happened on a motorway and by the time I had realised and pulled to the hard shoulder the sidewall was split. = I'm getting the spare.

28th February 2007, 09:24	#8 (permalink)
l-noel Wine and cooking ! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Roanne-France Posts: 1,328 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm driving since more than 20 years now... Had three punctures up to now, all where slow enough to let me park in safe place and to change the wheel. Never had a problem with the last car, spare wheel never used (and it was an alloy !)... So I'm happy with the system honda give us. If I've a major problem with a tyre I call my SOS N° and all problems are solved in less than 30mn.

28th February 2007, 10:52	#10 (permalink)
CrazyHawk Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 13th February 2007 Location: Leamington Spa Posts: 192 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Had a blow-out at 70 in the fast lane about 15 years ago, the tyre was a bit shredded after that. Since then, just a couple of your average punctures from metal studs and plastics bits in the sidewall. PS: I don't like the way that car manufacturers are skimping on space saver tyres for the sake of space and weight, and replacing them with cans of gunk.

28th February 2007, 11:35	#11 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 506 Thanks: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader: (0)	Four years ago when I had my Focus I remember thinking I could hear a hissing sound at a junction not long after going round a large roundabout and thinking that the steering felt very light. Stopped, got out to find a piece of angle iron protruding from the offside front tyre. If I pulled it the hissing got worse so I left it in and managed to get to the ford garage about a mile down the road. There's no way the 'get you home' system would have coped with that. I have also had a large nail giving a slow puncture but just changed wheels. I would like a spare wheel but the cost is putting me off a bit - I have accord alloys on my civvie and a spare wheel and tyre will cost approx £300. So if the worst happens it will be a call out job to honda assist.

28th February 2007, 15:08	#12 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've had 2 punctures in my 18 months of driving! both just screws in the wheel though. On leaving the car park at work my collegue managed to drive over a piece of metal and rip is tyre open; had a spare but I don't think gunk would have worked. Lippy - the space saver should work anyway!! You realise that Honda assist may get you home but they won't be able to sort your tyre out?

28th February 2007, 23:08	#16 (permalink)
3rd Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th July 2006 Location: Tewkesbury Posts: 414 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had two punctures on my previous Civic - both required new tyres. One would not have been fixable with the gunk, the other might have been. In over 30 years driving (about 15 punctures in total) - I would say that 50% of punctures have been unrepairable. I believe that only a few of the unrepairables would have been fixable with the gunk. I would not drive a long distance without a spare wheel. Just too much inconvenience if it can't be changed - especially on a Sunday!

1st March 2007, 07:57	#17 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 3,096 Thanks: 20 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts iTrader: (0)	Or Xmas day, Boxing Day, etc For the sake of £100 I now have 2 options of a fix. Peace of mind for me

1st March 2007, 16:05	#18 (permalink)
Vivienne Bird Valve Cap Join Date: 1st March 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Had shred on M5 took 5 hours to get going again. Got a spare now!

1st March 2007, 18:18	#19 (permalink)
frogger Valve Cap Join Date: 27th February 2007 Location: Rotherham, Peoples republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	In 17 years I've had 4 3 would have been repairable with the gunk and one shredded on my discovery which is not bad realy as for the first 10 years I was a field engineer doing about 50K miles a year these days I tend to average about 30K a year so thats well over half a million miles!