Cannot comment on the pads but the GD Disc's get my vote! They look good but not too flash behind the rims. I'd also imagine that the build quality is superior to the MTEC. The MTEC are cheap for a reason!

 

There isn't really that much out there for us diesel folk to choose from but I have the Ferodos and stoptech discs on the front and they are class (but need some time to warm up). I can't comment on the EBC range yet as such but I have done a lot of research on this subject before spending my hard earned cash .

I will go for EBC pads and discs on the rears though to save some cash and the fact is that there isn't really anything else out there for us diesel folk.

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks for both replies but do the ferrodos need time to warm up like the ebc yellow stuff then?

 

Yellow stuff work from cold like standard set up but a bit better in my opinion then get lots more bite the hotter they get (unlike standard)

 

Ds2500s vere on the side of fast road use with light track.
Yellows on the side of track use that are fine on the road.

2500s are easy and quick to bed in.
Yellows take over a 1000 miles to bed in.

Its a really tough call....only you know how hard you will be on the brakes.
Ds2500s work with pressure.
Yellows work with heat.
So they need a different driving style.

For a 1.8 or 2.0 Id say 2500's the diesel is a differnet kettle of fish though with the extra weight being much harder on the brakes.

BUT... you have accord twin pots now and 300mm disks...so perhaps DS2500s will be fine as you already have extra braking capacity.....and les likely to cook the brakes.

 

havent tried yellows can only say that the ferodos wee all over the green and are great from tcold

 

ds2500's all the way for me, once bedded in.

 

I was making the same decision when I decided to ditch my greens.

At the time, the ferodo's were nearly twice the cost of the yellows so that was the answer. The yellows have never let me down and only faded slightly once in 25,000 miles when I was doing a stint of dual carriageway with repeated late braking for roundabouts. I slowed up slightly and the brakes came back no problems.

 

When you say cold how do you warm up the yellow stuff? Is it with repeated braking? Am I correct in saying then that I do not need to warm up the ferrodo's?

 

If I say that my car is the family run about and I have no concerns with the wife driving it with the yellowstuff pads hopefully that should answer your question. After one or two stops, the pads are excellent. From cold they are fine but get better with heat. The greens got worse with heat.

 

2-3 applications stone cold and they are upto OEM standard.
Driving around town gentle/nomral braking they work say 150% better than OEM...I call them cool.
Take them down the country lane and do heavy braking but not emergency stops...they will warm up and bite harder and harder for the same effort.
After 15/20 mins of this... brushing the pedal = near emergency stop....braking simply cant be compared to OEM.
This is when they are upto temp.

You dont need to stamp the pedal and it will do you no favours.
Getting greedy will simply put the pads outside their heat range.

If you like to stamp the brakes to get them to work.... get the ds2500s

 

Thanks guys for your comments. I can get the yellows for £71.04 atr and the discs for £173 so bargain. I think I am sold to yellows then as my car is family run about and motorway driving and town also.

Yellows it is then. I have greens with ebc gd on rear. do you suggest I change rears to yellows too?

 

I have got yellows all round but I would imagine the rears don't get that hot. The problem theoretically with greens on the rear and yellows on the front is that the rears will bite harder when cold and imbalance the brake ratio front/rear. I can't see that happening though. EBC have recommended setups online showing what combinations they allow on different axles.

 

I have Greenstuff all round (on Turbo-Groove Disks) - fitted in 2009 - and I'm totally happy - but then, road speeds here are sharply limited ...

Now that there are more choices around, and lots of feedback \ reviews in here, I'd say DS2500 for sure ...

Even though I still have a spare \ unused set of 'front Greens', I'll probably change to DS2500s next time ...

 

I've got the EBC TG Discs and Yellowstuff pads.

I'd pretty much say they're just about bedded in after 1000 miles. I took it easy on them for the first 300 miles or so, and then I did a few 60mph to 10mph heavy brake applications on a quiet road to start and bed the pads in properly. When you do this you smell an awful chemical burning smell from the pads, but it's meant to be like this and is called 'green fade' (it's burning off the red chemical coating you see on the pads before you install them).

They really do give some excellent braking over standard (but I do have uprated lines and fluid) and they take an absolute hammering compared with OEM with very little fade. They are more aimed at track users so they're definitely more durable than DS2500s (which for me didn't last long) but they take a lot more to bed them in to get their full potential.

Relic is spot on - the Yellowstuff pads really come alive with heat but are still better than OEM when cold and they still have plenty of bite. Where they excel is when you're on a spirited run, or trackday, and you only have to brush the brake pedal to get plenty of braking from them when hot. You can much more easily trail brake on a track into the corners with Yellowstuffs working on heat as you require less pressure on the pedal. You don't have to be as precise as you would with pads that really need pressure to get them to bite - just means you can keep a smidge on into a corner, keep the weight over the front wheels and reduce understeer a touch if you're going in too fast.

Personally, on the road there is virtually no difference to my eyes but I suspect the DS2500s may give you a better overall feel. To be honest, don't get too hung up on temperatures and which is better - they're both hugely better than OEM and will give you a much better set of brakes!

 

Thanks for everyones replies.

If I do decide to get Yellow stuff pads then do I need to change the discs to EBC GD too?

Thanks

Ian

 

i would say yes as the pads will overheat the standard discs

 

Thats what I thought mate. Thanks for your reply

 

standard discs are maxed at 600 deg and from memory the yellows operate beyond this. mick will know.....

 

800c like the yellows...... 650c OEM and most brakes.