Alloys Choice Will 20" alloys fit Type R ?

w.car · 12th June 2007, 00:36

Hi every1 i got my ctr about 3 weeks now. i love it.... so tempting to get some 20" on it but will it fit with no problem. the standard wheels looks tiny. ****? thanks

illegalhunter · 12th June 2007, 06:59

ive seen them on a car on this site

Pottsy · 12th June 2007, 10:16

The car pictured in the forum is a US model:
http://www.civinfo.com/forum/showthr...6344#post56344

However, Rtec have fitted 20" TSW Kyalamis. Might be an idea to call them...

newswi2.jpg

rtec1.jpg

rtec2.jpg

w.car · 12th June 2007, 11:05

thanks mate, 20" right size for the civic looks great. you recon it will ruin the ride?

Pottsy · 12th June 2007, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.car

you recon it will ruin the ride?

Almost certainly. And the only tyres you can get will be budget ones, so further problems there.

Obsessed_Tuner · 9th July 2007, 16:16

Might have a little problem with the ride now and again but if you want the over all look to be a lot better go with 20'' if you are looking for a nicer smoother ride go with somthing a size down maybe 18'

TTDegs · 14th July 2007, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsessed_Tuner

Might have a little problem with the ride now and again but if you want the over all look to be a lot better go with 20'' if you are looking for a nicer smoother ride go with somthing a size down maybe 18'

LOL - first time I've ever seen an 18" being suggested for a smoother ride!

Though I'd have to agree

WoolyCiv · 14th July 2007, 21:12

Won't there be a problem with the calibration of the speedo & trip?

TTDegs · 15th July 2007, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

Won't there be a problem with the calibration of the speedo & trip?

not if you fit the right size tyres so that the overall rolling diameter remains the same

RafTypeR · 15th July 2007, 13:41

Dont do it, I tried some before I finally went for some 19's.

With 20's on it drove like a peice of *****, may look nice but not nice to drive, completely spoils the car!

Great for shows but that's it!

WoolyCiv · 15th July 2007, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTDegs

not if you fit the right size tyres so that the overall rolling diameter remains the same

I should have thought of that

The 20 incher's seem to fill the wheel arch more than standard fit wheels. Just goes to show that a couple of inches make all the difference

WoolyCiv · 15th July 2007, 22:20

A little off topic but, I have just measured my 'standard' EX 17" wheels and they measure 18.5" diam on the outside

Is the 17" the inner diam of the tyre (the diameter of the bead)? if not what does the 17" refer to?

TTDegs · 15th July 2007, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

A little off topic but, I have just measured my 'standard' EX 17" wheels and they measure 18.5" diam on the outside

Is the 17" the inner diam of the tyre (the diameter of the bead)? if not what does the 17" refer to?

Yes, the '17' on the tyre relates (or is supposed to!) the diameter of the wheel the tyre will fit.

There may be a small difference, as the wheel will have a 'lip', but it won't be 1.5"!

Are you sure you didn't tick the upgrade option box!?

for a full explanation of tyre markings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code

WoolyCiv · 16th July 2007, 00:00

Seems strange

I will recheck to-morrow, could be too much caffeine and poor light combination causing me to misread the measurement.

WoolyCiv · 16th July 2007, 21:05

Nope the caffeine level was correct and the light was ok -

So what is the answer?

TTDegs · 18th July 2007, 10:52

get a new tape measure

I'm completly flumoxed LOL

But I'll go and measure mine in a bit

civicg · 25th July 2007, 10:39

Im going to take a guess here but those that have gone for 20s probably dont use it every day! It will be a complete nightmare, especially when combined with the Civics stiff suspension setup.

18s are the optimum for looks and comfort, the max should be 19 IMO. Even the you have a high chance of buckling the wheels with our UK roads.

A little tip, is you want the wheels to look big, get alloys where the spokes or the design stick out and not in. Those 20s in the pic dont look like 20s because the spokes go in, if you find 19s where the spokes go out, it may look biggerthen the 20s!

JonTypeS · 25th July 2007, 11:54

Yeah dont get 20’s. I remember when the Stig first test drove the type on Top Gear he was amazed at how good it was, and even made the point that the 19’s that were available would probably ruin the handling.

Oh and in answer to Wooly rest assured your tape is fine as I found this on the Web

Wheel Sizes:
Alloy wheel sizing is generally a simply science, width and diameter. All alloy wheels have 2 main measurements these are always shown in imperial sizes as inches and also tend to always be written in the same way. If you look on the Race and Road website or on an actual alloy wheel you will see the following example of measurement 7.5x17”.

The first is the measurement of the wheels width. The width of an alloy wheel is measured from the inside of the rim where the tyre fits the wheel. So if you measure a 7.0” wheel from outside edge to outside edge you will find it measure 8.0”, but if you measure from bead seat to bead seat, where the tyre sits, you will see it measures 7.0”.

The second is the measurement of the wheels diameter. Again the measurement can be deceiving is you were to measure a 17” alloy wheel on the outside from its furthest point to point it will measure around 18”. As with the width of the wheel the diameter is measured from the points at which the tyre sits on the wheel.

TTDegs · 25th July 2007, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonTypeS

Yeah dont get 20’s. I remember when the Stig first test drove the type on Top Gear he was amazed at how good it was, and even made the point that the 19’s that were available would probably ruin the handling.

Oh and in answer to Wooly rest assured your tape is fine as I found this on the Web

Wheel Sizes:
Alloy wheel sizing is generally a simply science, width and diameter. All alloy wheels have 2 main measurements these are always shown in imperial sizes as inches and also tend to always be written in the same way. If you look on the Race and Road website or on an actual alloy wheel you will see the following example of measurement 7.5x17”.

The first is the measurement of the wheels width. The width of an alloy wheel is measured from the inside of the rim where the tyre fits the wheel. So if you measure a 7.0” wheel from outside edge to outside edge you will find it measure 8.0”, but if you measure from bead seat to bead seat, where the tyre sits, you will see it measures 7.0”.

The second is the measurement of the wheels diameter. Again the measurement can be deceiving is you were to measure a 17” alloy wheel on the outside from its furthest point to point it will measure around 18”. As with the width of the wheel the diameter is measured from the points at which the tyre sits on the wheel.

shows what I know!

cheers Jon

WoolyCiv · 25th July 2007, 22:35

Thanks for that JohnTypeS. So a 17" tyre 'seats' into the rim by about 5/8" on the standard 17 rims.

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12th June 2007, 06:59	#2 (permalink)
illegalhunter Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 2,115 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	ive seen them on a car on this site

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,772 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	The car pictured in the forum is a US model: http://www.civinfo.com/forum/showthr...6344#post56344 However, Rtec have fitted 20" TSW Kyalamis. Might be an idea to call them... newswi2.jpg rtec1.jpg rtec2.jpg

12th June 2007, 11:05	#4 (permalink)
w.car Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 11th June 2007 Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks mate, 20" right size for the civic looks great. you recon it will ruin the ride?

9th July 2007, 16:16	#6 (permalink)
Obsessed_Tuner Valve Cap Join Date: 29th June 2007 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Might have a little problem with the ride now and again but if you want the over all look to be a lot better go with 20'' if you are looking for a nicer smoother ride go with somthing a size down maybe 18'

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WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Won't there be a problem with the calibration of the speedo & trip?

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RafTypeR Valve Cap Join Date: 15th June 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dont do it, I tried some before I finally went for some 19's. With 20's on it drove like a peice of *****, may look nice but not nice to drive, completely spoils the car! Great for shows but that's it!

15th July 2007, 22:20	#12 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A little off topic but, I have just measured my 'standard' EX 17" wheels and they measure 18.5" diam on the outside Is the 17" the inner diam of the tyre (the diameter of the bead)? if not what does the 17" refer to?

16th July 2007, 00:00	#14 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Seems strange I will recheck to-morrow, could be too much caffeine and poor light combination causing me to misread the measurement.

18th July 2007, 10:52	#16 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	get a new tape measure I'm completly flumoxed LOL But I'll go and measure mine in a bit

25th July 2007, 10:39	#17 (permalink)
civicg Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Leeds Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Im going to take a guess here but those that have gone for 20s probably dont use it every day! It will be a complete nightmare, especially when combined with the Civics stiff suspension setup. 18s are the optimum for looks and comfort, the max should be 19 IMO. Even the you have a high chance of buckling the wheels with our UK roads. A little tip, is you want the wheels to look big, get alloys where the spokes or the design stick out and not in. Those 20s in the pic dont look like 20s because the spokes go in, if you find 19s where the spokes go out, it may look biggerthen the 20s!

25th July 2007, 11:54	#18 (permalink)
JonTypeS Wheelnut Join Date: 17th April 2007 Location: Lancaster Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah dont get 20’s. I remember when the Stig first test drove the type on Top Gear he was amazed at how good it was, and even made the point that the 19’s that were available would probably ruin the handling. Oh and in answer to Wooly rest assured your tape is fine as I found this on the Web Wheel Sizes: Alloy wheel sizing is generally a simply science, width and diameter. All alloy wheels have 2 main measurements these are always shown in imperial sizes as inches and also tend to always be written in the same way. If you look on the Race and Road website or on an actual alloy wheel you will see the following example of measurement 7.5x17”. The first is the measurement of the wheels width. The width of an alloy wheel is measured from the inside of the rim where the tyre fits the wheel. So if you measure a 7.0” wheel from outside edge to outside edge you will find it measure 8.0”, but if you measure from bead seat to bead seat, where the tyre sits, you will see it measures 7.0”. The second is the measurement of the wheels diameter. Again the measurement can be deceiving is you were to measure a 17” alloy wheel on the outside from its furthest point to point it will measure around 18”. As with the width of the wheel the diameter is measured from the points at which the tyre sits on the wheel.

25th July 2007, 22:35	#20 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for that JohnTypeS. So a 17" tyre 'seats' into the rim by about 5/8" on the standard 17 rims.