Spare New tyre - ouch!

Hartside · 27th August 2006, 15:22

Got the car out of the garage this morning (yes I'm one of those people who still use a garage to keep the car in

) and noticed the drivers side was going flat. Checked the tyre and found it has a screw sticking in it. It being Sunday I phoned a few tyre fitting companies and found a local one open. You guessed it, the tyre could not be repaired as the screw was nearly in the sidewall on the shoulder of the tyre. Cost me £140 fully fitted

I know I may have got one cheaper on the net, but stood in the tyre centre with a tyre off the rim, that wasn't an option. Also it being Bank Holiday weekend I wanted a proper tyre on as I didn't want to run about on the space saver. Hope I don't get too many more, as seeing a tyre with only 3700 miles on it go to the bin brought a tear to my eye.

elfa7 · 27th August 2006, 16:23

I'll bet its repaired and used by someone.

Hartside · 27th August 2006, 16:29

Probably, wouldn't mind betting someone's got a set of alloys for which this fits the bill

woohoo.......I'm a Supporter now, at least something to cheer up my day

Martin · 27th August 2006, 18:21

Thats bad news, but at least you had a compressor to put the pressure to the correct level so you didn't damage the rim

Hartside · 27th August 2006, 18:35

I used my Halfords compressor to blow it up. When I got the car, it took me about 30 minutes to get the Honda compressor/gunk into the little compartment, so it will only come out in dire need

Martin · 27th August 2006, 18:39

Hartside,

Wait until you try to gat it back in!!

The wiring takes forever!!!

kelly · 29th August 2006, 20:44

Hartside - I sympathise!

I had to have a new tyre after 1500 miles. Ripped the side wall - big hole in it, not repairable and obviously the gunk/compressor would have been a waste of time. Got towed home by the AA (had only had the car 2 weeks). Then had to get the wheel off (well boyfriend did) and had to abandon my Civic for a couple of days whilst I found the cheapest price in the shortest time I could for the same type of tyre which was £150 (balanced but not fitted). (18" storms on it).

Bungle · 30th August 2006, 12:24

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Originally Posted by kelly

Hartside - I sympathise!

I had to have a new tyre after 1500 miles. Ripped the side wall - big hole in it, not repairable and obviously the gunk/compressor would have been a waste of time. Got towed home by the AA (had only had the car 2 weeks). Then had to get the wheel off (well boyfriend did) and had to abandon my Civic for a couple of days whilst I found the cheapest price in the shortest time I could for the same type of tyre which was £150 (balanced but not fitted). (18" storms on it).

That's exactly why I got scared of relying on the gunk, so I 'acquired' a spare wheel just in case.

It has been mentioned before, and is my biggest gripe with the gunk. If you get a small puncture and use your gunk to get home or to a tyre place, they will not repair the tyre. Once the gunk is used, it ruins the tyre. A repair only costs £10 0r £15.

A really feel for you, though. Was the wheel itself OK? I would hate to damage an 18" storm!

Ancient Nerd · 30th August 2006, 14:04

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Originally Posted by kelly

Hartside - I sympathise!

I had to have a new tyre after 1500 miles. Ripped the side wall - big hole in it, not repairable and obviously the gunk/compressor would have been a waste of time. Got towed home by the AA (had only had the car 2 weeks). Then had to get the wheel off (well boyfriend did) and had to abandon my Civic for a couple of days whilst I found the cheapest price in the shortest time I could for the same type of tyre which was £150 (balanced but not fitted). (18" storms on it).

This is why I think Honda is going to make a fair number of enemies (me already) by not supplying a spare wheel. In the last eight years, I have had three punctures, two of which wouldn't have been fixed by HondaGunk. If this happens to me with this car, they are going to get so much bad publicity it will really hurt. It is very short term thinking on Honda's part to save a few pounds on the cost of the car.

Renault tried the same sort of thing by not paying the TMC licences on their dearer Satnav systems. It ended up with them supplying replacement CDs, at full retail cost to large numbers of owners over the three years it took them to see the error of their ways. Honda is being equally short sighted with the spare wheel issue.

Bungle · 30th August 2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly

Hartside - I sympathise!

I had to have a new tyre after 1500 miles. Ripped the side wall - big hole in it, not repairable and obviously the gunk/compressor would have been a waste of time. Got towed home by the AA (had only had the car 2 weeks). Then had to get the wheel off (well boyfriend did) and had to abandon my Civic for a couple of days whilst I found the cheapest price in the shortest time I could for the same type of tyre which was £150 (balanced but not fitted). (18" storms on it).

This is why I think Honda is going to make a fair number of enemies (me already) by not supplying a spare wheel. In the last eight years, I have had three punctures, two of which wouldn't have been fixed by HondaGunk. If this happens to me with this car, they are going to get so much bad publicity it will really hurt. It is very short term thinking on Honda's part to save a few pounds on the cost of the car.

Renault tried the same sort of thing by not paying the TMC licences on their dearer Satnav systems. It ended up with them supplying replacement CDs, at full retail cost to large numbers of owners over the three years it took them to see the error of their ways. Honda is being equally short sighted with the spare wheel issue.

This is for another duscussion, but in Hond'a defence, if you do your research before buying the car, they do clearly state there is no spare, and it is not purly a cost thing, if at all. The cost of the air compressor and the gunk can't be that much less than the £99 spare.
The main reasons for the lack of spare were to be able to boast about having the largest boot in the class, and the weight savings (marginally) halping fuel economy and performance.

elfa7 · 30th August 2006, 14:46

It would be nice if Honda offered to swap the compressor and gunk for a spare wheel.

Bungle · 30th August 2006, 15:13

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Originally Posted by elfa7

It would be nice if Honda offered to swap the compressor and gunk for a spare wheel.

Agreed

allan40alt · 30th August 2006, 15:20

Yes; but every car comes with the compressor and gunk. Bet they would swap if you had the wheel and offered

Bassa · 30th August 2006, 16:11

Should be customer's choice.
Honda should offer either as a no cost option - the customer could then choose between one or the other.

Ancient Nerd · 30th August 2006, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Bungle

This is for another duscussion, but in Hond'a defence, if you do your research before buying the car, they do clearly state there is no spare, and it is not purly a cost thing, if at all. The cost of the air compressor and the gunk can't be that much less than the £99 spare.
The main reasons for the lack of spare were to be able to boast about having the largest boot in the class, and the weight savings (marginally) halping fuel economy and performance

As I have said elsewhere in this forum, I found out about it after I had collected the car. I eventually found it in small and pale grey text buried in the middle of the specs detail. It is also in the incredibly badly photocopied price list handed to me by the dealer. Very definitely a buried in the small print exercise. But no, I obviously didn't do my research carefully enough. Still doesn't make me very impressed by Honda, whose attitude so far leaves me totally cold .

If the cost of the air compressor and the gunk isn't that much less than the £99 spare, then I feel sure that they would be willing to swap. However, I'll bet that they won't.

I can also assure you that if I end up having a non-repairable puncture, I won't be thinking nice things about Honda and the bit of extra boot space that always sits empty.

Tydo · 5th October 2006, 11:24

Not wishing to be horrible but did you not look at the ones in the showroom before you ordered it, I would have thought it was apparent that the spare wheel wasn't in the car, it was to me.

I don't have a spare wheel, I'm tempted to get the space saver for long trips but the rest of the time I'd chance the tyre goo. My last car had a full size spare and thinking about it rationally it must have cost a decent amount to lug it around all the time not to mention that the tyre would probably never be used. You've got the breakdown assist and the goo what more do you really need?

generationgav · 5th October 2006, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Tydo

You've got the breakdown assist and the goo what more do you really need?

Breakdown assist do not carry spare tyres with them.
The goo does not work 30% of the time.
Most companies will not repair a tyre once the goo is used.
Someobody here couldn't fix the tyre with the goo and ended up having to get a tyre ordered and was without a car for 3 days; I cannot afford to do this.

Knat · 5th October 2006, 12:20

I can beat you on the timw for tyre replacment. 3 weeks after getting my new car I noticed there was a bulge in the front right tyre so I went to get it checked out and they said I needed a new one.

I didnt think it would be a problem until they said its not covered under warranty as it was my fault somehow and that the tyres don't just break for no reason. After sending it off to get inspected it took 2 months to get a reply saying that I had done "something" to the car and screwed the tyre up. £110 and I was not a happy bunny

Nick7 · 5th October 2006, 13:00

Well, frankly.. driving on 'repaired' tyre aint for me.
Goo is good enough for me - just to get to first shop where tyre can be fixed/buy new one. Even 'fixed' one I would replace. I do not want to put my head in the bag for driving on repaired tyre (especially since I tend to drive fast).

allan40alt · 5th October 2006, 13:03

On my Mini Cooper S Works I had 'run flat' tyres. Can you get them for the Civic

27th August 2006, 15:22	#1 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New tyre - ouch! Got the car out of the garage this morning (yes I'm one of those people who still use a garage to keep the car in ) and noticed the drivers side was going flat. Checked the tyre and found it has a screw sticking in it. It being Sunday I phoned a few tyre fitting companies and found a local one open. You guessed it, the tyre could not be repaired as the screw was nearly in the sidewall on the shoulder of the tyre. Cost me £140 fully fitted I know I may have got one cheaper on the net, but stood in the tyre centre with a tyre off the rim, that wasn't an option. Also it being Bank Holiday weekend I wanted a proper tyre on as I didn't want to run about on the space saver. Hope I don't get too many more, as seeing a tyre with only 3700 miles on it go to the bin brought a tear to my eye.

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27th August 2006, 16:23	#2 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll bet its repaired and used by someone.

27th August 2006, 16:29	#3 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Probably, wouldn't mind betting someone's got a set of alloys for which this fits the bill woohoo.......I'm a Supporter now, at least something to cheer up my day

27th August 2006, 18:21	#4 (permalink)
Martin Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th August 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 226 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thats bad news, but at least you had a compressor to put the pressure to the correct level so you didn't damage the rim

27th August 2006, 18:35	#5 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I used my Halfords compressor to blow it up. When I got the car, it took me about 30 minutes to get the Honda compressor/gunk into the little compartment, so it will only come out in dire need

27th August 2006, 18:39	#6 (permalink)
Martin Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th August 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 226 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hartside, Wait until you try to gat it back in!! The wiring takes forever!!!

29th August 2006, 20:44	#7 (permalink)
kelly Valve Cap Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hartside - I sympathise! I had to have a new tyre after 1500 miles. Ripped the side wall - big hole in it, not repairable and obviously the gunk/compressor would have been a waste of time. Got towed home by the AA (had only had the car 2 weeks). Then had to get the wheel off (well boyfriend did) and had to abandon my Civic for a couple of days whilst I found the cheapest price in the shortest time I could for the same type of tyre which was £150 (balanced but not fitted). (18" storms on it).

30th August 2006, 14:46	#11 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It would be nice if Honda offered to swap the compressor and gunk for a spare wheel.

30th August 2006, 15:20	#13 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,227 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts	Yes; but every car comes with the compressor and gunk. Bet they would swap if you had the wheel and offered

30th August 2006, 16:11	#14 (permalink)
Bassa Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 19th August 2006 Location: Lincs Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Should be customer's choice. Honda should offer either as a no cost option - the customer could then choose between one or the other.

5th October 2006, 11:24	#16 (permalink)
Tydo Wheelnut Join Date: 16th August 2006 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not wishing to be horrible but did you not look at the ones in the showroom before you ordered it, I would have thought it was apparent that the spare wheel wasn't in the car, it was to me. I don't have a spare wheel, I'm tempted to get the space saver for long trips but the rest of the time I'd chance the tyre goo. My last car had a full size spare and thinking about it rationally it must have cost a decent amount to lug it around all the time not to mention that the tyre would probably never be used. You've got the breakdown assist and the goo what more do you really need?

5th October 2006, 12:20	#18 (permalink)
Knat Wheelnut Join Date: 6th September 2006 Location: Southport, UK Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can beat you on the timw for tyre replacment. 3 weeks after getting my new car I noticed there was a bulge in the front right tyre so I went to get it checked out and they said I needed a new one. I didnt think it would be a problem until they said its not covered under warranty as it was my fault somehow and that the tyres don't just break for no reason. After sending it off to get inspected it took 2 months to get a reply saying that I had done "something" to the car and screwed the tyre up. £110 and I was not a happy bunny

5th October 2006, 13:00	#19 (permalink)
Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, frankly.. driving on 'repaired' tyre aint for me. Goo is good enough for me - just to get to first shop where tyre can be fixed/buy new one. Even 'fixed' one I would replace. I do not want to put my head in the bag for driving on repaired tyre (especially since I tend to drive fast).

5th October 2006, 13:03	#20 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,227 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts	On my Mini Cooper S Works I had 'run flat' tyres. Can you get them for the Civic