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Hi Folks, it's my first post here so hoping you guys can share your opinions/experiences here.

I do 20k a year with 80% of my driving motorways/A roads. I've never had a diesel before and my previous 2 cars have been petrol Mazda's.

I'm looking at buying a 2011 plate civic ES. It's the last year the DPF free i-CDTI engine was available

It's done 115k miles and has full Honda Service history, with 9 stamps.

Is there anything I need to be concerned about with this given it's relatively high mileage?

I can get 40mpg from my Mazda 3 (5 speed manual) when I do an eco run that varies between 60-65mph. Is it unreasonable to expect 55mpg from the civic?

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Hi, and welcome.

With that mileage, many consumables such as Tyres, Brakes will all have been replaced. The clutch is worth a check, find an incline, and at around 40mph, at 2000 rpm (4th) floor it. It should not slip... get a good discount if it does. A simple clutch will set you back £500, it'll be around £1000 if the flywheel is shot!.

Other than that, nothing major / costly that I can think of, but the forum is a friendly bunch so you should get plenty of replies.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunantely I will be buying the car unseen from an auction.

I thought the clutch issue was fixed from 2010? Wouldnt it have the 325 clutch and modified clutch plates?
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I thought the clutch issue was fixed from 2010? Wouldnt it have the 325 clutch and modified clutch plates?
My 325 only lasted 28k without a map… and I didn't have the second one long either.

Clutch would be the only worry with that mileage… but I wouldn't go with the prices from cavalrystu… TDI are doing the new competition clutch single plate for £799 fitted. That's a complete clutch and flywheel setup, uprated so it should last a lot longer than the standard chocolate clutch.

55MPG is achievable BTW, but it does require being gentle with the accelerator. The 80% motorway/A roads would be fine, it's the other 20% that will kill the economy. Realistically, I would only expect 50 at most if you're good. Some mods will make that better though ^_^

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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunantely I will be buying the car unseen from an auction.

I thought the clutch issue was fixed from 2010? Wouldnt it have the 325 clutch and modified clutch plates?
it will have the latest clutch, but at that mileage, it could be coming to the end of it's life and if you catch it starting to slip at high torques, then it'll only get worse from there.

If you replaced it with an OEM 325 clutch, you should be able to get the clutch and flywheel and have it fitted by a respectable garage all for £1000, but without driving it first, you won't know.

Also, regarding the MPG, if you're doing mostly 65mph on motorways, you should easily get 55mpg out of it.

EDIT: and for the record, my OEM clutch is on 70k+ and hasn't slipped at all. And i do test it out pretty often

aBigSavage1 doesn't seem to rate them (and neither would i if it only lasted 20k) but the consensus seems to be that at stock power, the 325 can last a decent amount of time. Although the prices for an uprated clutch right now are excellent, and if you have any desire to up the power (and MPG) then i'd recommend getting one while they are going cheap!

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Missed the MPG bit. I've had my car 12 months / 24k miles, and averaged over 50mpg, with a mix of driving, but little motorway.

If you're happy doing 70mph, 55mpg will be easily achievable.

As for price, I'd say if you're getting the car under £3500.... you're getting a good deal, assuming it's in good condition.

As for the clutch, if it needs one, you'll at least have a new one. Mine has the 305 clutch, it did 50k, replaced with the 325 one.... which is going ok so far.
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Car will be around £4400 I rekon. Civic's hold their value well - which isn't really a bad thing I suppose. It's in impeccable condition from what I believe and it's got full Honda Service History every 12.5k miles or so

I know the injectors used in the engine are made by Bosch but surely, being a CR engine they can't last very long can they? What sort of mileage do they normally need replacing by?

Might be better off with the 1.8 IVTEC if the injectors on the CDTI need doing soon
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I know the injectors used in the engine are made by Bosch but surely, being a CR engine they can't last very long can they? What sort of mileage do they normally need replacing by?

Might be better off with the 1.8 IVTEC if the injectors on the CDTI need doing soon
It all depends on the maintenance and the quality of the fuel that was used in the car. They could last for another 100k…

I don't know of anyone replacing injectors on the N22A2 engine really… Jon_G might know a few… There's been a few, that I know of, who had them reconditioned when they changed the timing chain. Reconditioning is about £100 per injector BTW. It should be £10 per injector to get them tested by a Bosch specialist if you want… so it's not particularly expensive, assuming the mechanic can get the injector out with breaking it
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Civics sell well secondhand so you have to ask yourself why it's in the auction so I would assume it has a problem like a skipping clutch.
Reliability good and you will get 55mpg fairly easily if you don't get stuck in traffic a lot.
I've bought many cars from auctions and it's always the cheapest place to find a car so happy bidding.
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IF someone has part ex'd it, it could easily be auctioned... many dealers auction everything they get in
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115k in 4 years, 9 dealer service stamps...will be an ex fleet car, imo, and that's why it's being auctioned.

And that type of mileage in that time frame can only be achieved on motorways, so clutch won't have had that much use.

Agree with aBigSavage1, never really heard of people needing to replace the injectors.

55 mpg should easily be achievable, with a light right foot and 80% motorway. Best economy is achieved @ 1.6-1.7k in 6th gear.

Slipstreamed an HGV @ 56 mph for a couple of hundred miles once and achieved this...



I have been remapped, twice, and ECU is over-reading by about 10%, but tank-to-tank calculation was still 70.
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wow that really good for a 8th gen you didnt attach a towing rope with the hgv by any chance?
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I get 52 mpg around town. remember it's got bags of torque so can plod along under 1500 revs in any gear. less revs mean less fuel.
With higher mileage cars just change the oil more often every 6000 miles and should last up to 200k.
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My 2.2 which I got at the start of the year was on 103k, now on nearly 108k and I'm getting just under 51mpg and that is with quite a bit of round town driving. I wouldn't be concerned on the mileage, especially with all the service history to back it up.
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I ended up buying an 08 plate SE with heated leather instead.

Had 92k when I bought it a few thousand miles ago. At Auction with full Honda service history.
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