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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 13th November 2016, 10:36 Thread Starter
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Sum up your ownership so far

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The FK2 is fast approaching what I decided I'd pay for one, so I'll be seriously looking in the new year.

I've had a couple of test drives, but these never really give you a true indication of what it's like to live with one.

So for those who own one/have owned one, how would you sum it up? I'll be going from a daily driver FN2 to a daily FK2 as I know a few have - how was this change?

I know there's loads of opinions in other threads, but it'd be great just to have a list of opinions in one thread.

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Hi guys

The FK2 is fast approaching what I decided I'd pay for one, so I'll be seriously looking in the new year.

I've had a couple of test drives, but these never really give you a true indication of what it's like to live with one.

So for those who own one/have owned one, how would you sum it up? I'll be going from a daily driver FN2 to a daily FK2 as I know a few have - how was this change?

I know there's loads of opinions in other threads, but it'd be great just to have a list of opinions in one thread.

Thanks!
I don't think you will be disappointed going for the FK2 I came from an DC5 then went on to the FD2, the FK2 is a great all rounder full of gadgets that are very useful The fk2 can pootle about then can change into it's Type R mode as you like
Was going for a newun with scratching around finding the dosh but found my FK2 that had less than three thousand miles and only three months old for sale, it was the right colour with 5 years service plan.

In my opinion the FK2 is best best Type R to date....So modern....So up to date.....So easy to live with....Very economical for the power available....I could go on for ever LOL
Just do it

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With out doubt the best Honda I have ever owned as an everyday car, and I have had a few in the last 15 years. So practical being a 5 door. Big boot, GT spec has lots of toys as standard. No problems can just use it round town 20-30mph so civilised but then the performance is there when you need it and then some. The car feels so stable and planted at speed it is scary, The styling you will either love or hate. I personally love it the fact it looks different and not bland like some other manufactures performance models. Running costs are very good I think considering the performance on offer. Just budget for tyres on a yearly basis, well depending mileage but I am having my second set in the space of a year in the next couple of weeks. My opinion but this is the second best type R from the factory Honda has ever made.
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As above, great car. Not perfect though so here's my niggles that you might like to know about:

Dash rattles (in for fix again tomorrow) - it's the cable going to filler flap every time.

Rear visibility when parking is zero. Trust the camera at your peril.

Sat nav has yet to report one traffic jam I've ended up in.

Paint is thin. Rear arches get battered.

Infotainment is clunky at best. No separate sub woofer control. You get used to it though.


I had a diesel FN2 EX-GT. Mate has the type r. The FK2 is in another league. FN2 owners will tell you different obviously. This is my 4th type r (previously ep3, dc2,DC5) and it's by far the best. I use it to commute Bristol to Swindon most days. It does this job without complaint and is nowhere near as noisy as some say. You would think you were in a regular Civic at 70mph. And trust me, at that speed if you hit the throttle you are gone!

Of all the things I love most about the car it's the looks. Mine is grey so not so in you face as red or white, but each to his own. Everyone who sees it loves it and comments on it. So you get a real sense of pride. It's also very exclusive. I've seen one other since launch. And I've been looking.
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I too came from an FD2 which i absolutely loved and owned for 6 years. For the first few weeks of ownership i struggled to escape a nagging doubt that i should of kept the FD2 but now i'm much happier with my decision.
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i agree with all thats been said, so instead of repeating the praise, here's my niggles...

this CTR is the first typeR i've owned. a '00 S2000, '95 prelude vtec are the other fast hondas i've owned. Owning the s2k for 8years has given me a very high standard and specific feel to compare to.

lack of noise and lack of steering feel are the biggest issues for me on the CTR.
noise is easily fixed with a cat-back. steering is just something to get used to and live with coming from the s2k. any car i was looking at (civic and the lexus CT220) would of meant an entirely new car dynamic to get used to. That said, it's a lot less effort to drive and refinement/civilization of everything favors the civic. I knew anything i seriously looked into as a replacement for the s2k would be a major change.

do not expect it to be an old NA civic. there is no vtec pronouncement, or obvious change over point.
personally, I bought the s2k for the engine and falls into the specialist/focused driving category. The CTR was bought for the entire package and fit as a great all-rounder daily car. far better suited to my requirements than the s2k did.

i have no regrets buying the CTR and forsee me still having it in another 5-10years.
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Go on Welshy you know you want one!

I have covered 7k miles in the 5 months I have had mine. The journey to work is a long one down the M6 at all times of day in some of the ****ist traffic known. And I wouldn't change it for anything. Compared to the CW Type R, it is far more comfortable, the ride is so much better. The clutch is no where near as heavy and uncomfy in traffic, and the gearbox make it a joy to drive even in the traffic. I actually find the rear visability far better than the FN2 and have no issues going backwards in it. The front pillars are a little bit large and some times have to move to use both side and front widows going around long bends.

The headunit is a bit naff and the satnav/traffic I find not very good, I prefer to use Waze on my phone for help finding back roads to work. And my only other complaint is the throttle response, I really would like the R+ mode one without the hard suspension. Oh and the brakes have started to squeal, just turn the music up louder in slow traffic.

But saying that, would I buy a comfy derv to commute in.......not on your life!
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Cool

Since this is my firs Honda, I can compare it with my Fords, from which the best one is '10 zetec s 2.0tdci 136hp (mine is 170hp(remap))
My focus has all the optional extras so it's the best you can get from mk2 focus except the RS (never liked the mk2 ST and never will)

-Fk2 is noisier(engine noise in the cabin which is always bad)
-fk2 is hard on ride but if you want soft ride just buy cr-v it's same money so hard ride is not a con
-ride hard but only when tarmac is bad. ride is perfect on good roads (except the engine noise but I will fix that with extra layers of sound proofing around the firewall a guy from Spain did it and he is VERY satisfied with the improvements)
-You don't need all the optional extras and good stuff in the fk2 because when you drive you DRIVE and nothing else. You forget about everything. I couldn't believe how different and how much race car this road legal family hatchback is! And trust me my focus is no slow - changed suspension, wheels and remaped
-garmin navigation (in GT pack) is useless, everything else from the optional extras included in the GT pack is actually useful and ok
-very good MPG both urban and extraurban for this power and speed. And I don't drive slow
-amazingly spacious in the back seats and boot ( I have 8 month baby and a lot of luggage around him when we go outside our hometown ) if you had Audi or something like that you will feel in a whole different world with Honda's practicality and space. In the front it's not spacious but than you don't need any because you have road ahead, +R button and amazing seats that's enough.
-when you have good tarmac, closed road and zero traffic, hit +R and have half a tank, the World stops turning, the car goes straight into your hands and heart. It's just so out of space car this last but sums it up in the best way.
-driver position is very good but keep your back straight up and seat close to the steering wheel (wrc style).
-your car is out of space cool and angry so everybody will love it and stare at it. take care of her with care and love and she will do the same with you and make you feel special 10 ot of 10 and happy human being 10 out of 10
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Wow, what a great response! Thanks so much everyone, really appreciated.

Reading the stuff about the niggles and commuting is great as these are the things you can't pick up on a test drive and certainly doesn't put me off.

The plan is to get a polished metal GT in Feb/March as the new registrations should drop used prices a touch more and the worst of winter will hopefully be over (maybe!)

Whether I can wait that long is another question...
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A lot of car for the money. Couple on for sale below 24,000 now. Should be not far off the 20,000 mark after the new reg comes out. Quite simply a bargain, wasn't too long ago that they were 33,000 new before options
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I paid 33k on 2-year PCP. Guaranteed future value is 20k. I expect it to be more like 23k. Not fussed though as wanted new.
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22K - 24K was what I allowed myself after the initial test drive. I absolutely loved it and other than the engine note, there was nothing I didn't consider better than mine.

The question I asked myself was "is it 20k better than my M200". I'd had a remap on it, along with upgraded brakes, plus already having a LSD, the intake roar and an element of exclusivity just tipped me into waiting until that gap was roughly 10k.

It has happened sooner than expected I must say, but as you say Reeves, when you buy new you do it because you want to, not to worry about depreciation.

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It might be worth waiting a year for the new one as that'll make the fk2 cheaper again more than likely sub 20k. I'm in a similar position to you but got 2 years to wait sadly
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It's always tricky deciding when to make a move isn't it? I think waiting a year will make mine depreciate more as I do a fair bit of mileage, so whilst it's low for the age now, it wouldn't be in 12 months.

Plus as the 10G looks awful, I'm hopeful the limited run of the FK2 may see prices stabilise.

Or I could be completely wrong, which is far more likely!
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I think they'll stabilise around 18-20k for early ones once the new one comes out but I don't think you'll loose as much on the m200 as it's the more appealing fn2
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When the production 10g type-r rolls out the FK2 prices will jump because 99% sure the 10g will be no looker when showroom ready car next autumn
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I bet they won't especially if parts are available to make it look like this
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aren't shopping list stickers already available for the FK2?
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I came from a Civic Type S GT. Overall, I love the FK2- it's difficult not to love it. It's fast, turns head, chops GTI's and doesn't ruin you financially to run. As with most cars, has a few niggles:

- lane departure warning system makes me jump out of my skin and is overly sensitive.
- the heating/ aircon control layout is stupid. all the buttons are behind the gear stick, meaning you have to physically look at the shifter and wiggle your hand in front of it, just to de-mist the screen. Try doing that with confidence whilst plowing down the motorway, or along a winedy B road. (this is a 9G gripe in general).
- as some have said before, the paint is not at all durable. this car would suffer from road rash even if it was garaged for it's entire life.
- the brakes are phenomenal, but squeal like a pig, especially in the cold weather.
- the Conti's SC6 are god awful and need replacing every 6k miles or so.
- the exhaust note is a bit tame.

Just nit-picking really and every downside is worth it because the car never fails to put a smile on my face!
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