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Brake hold - beware!!

Another rant from yours truly - you can tell I'm getting old!!

I had reason to leave the staff car park at midday - boom blocks entry on exit (automatic for departing vehicles) and on return (open first thing only).

To enter I need to use my 'security fob' - card really.

I'm on brake hold, but need to open my coat to access my fob - which requires I remove the seat belt ....

I 'fob' the gate, opens, but the car's handbrake is on!!
WHY????

Start / Stop had stopped the motor, so I declutch to restart, it's on a slight incline (upwards) so I release the handbrake (private land so wasn't too bothered about replacing the seatbelt - BAD MOVE!!)
Brake Hold isn't working!! I push the button - no light.
Handbrake is on again - I DON'T WANT THAT!!
Then I see the seatbelt sign - you need to fasten your seatbelt before the now-excellent-idea of brake hold will work - NEARLY rolled into the car behind, fathing around with this!!

Damned 'safety' features!!
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Wow... noted!!!!
How annoying
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I've said many times that the century old handbrake lever wasn't broke. You know where you are with a lever.

Technology for technology sake.
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I'm glad my car has none of this
The missus scenic has the set up where you have to press the brake or clutch in when starting the car. Does my head in.
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Another rant from yours truly - you can tell I'm getting old!!

I had reason to leave the staff car park at midday - boom blocks entry on exit (automatic for departing vehicles) and on return (open first thing only).

To enter I need to use my 'security fob' - card really.

I'm on brake hold, but need to open my coat to access my fob - which requires I remove the seat belt ....

I 'fob' the gate, opens, but the car's handbrake is on!!
WHY????

Start / Stop had stopped the motor, so I declutch to restart, it's on a slight incline (upwards) so I release the handbrake (private land so wasn't too bothered about replacing the seatbelt - BAD MOVE!!)
Brake Hold isn't working!! I push the button - no light.
Handbrake is on again - I DON'T WANT THAT!!
Then I see the seatbelt sign - you need to fasten your seatbelt before the now-excellent-idea of brake hold will work - NEARLY rolled into the car behind, fathing around with this!!

Damned 'safety' features!!
Al.
It was the first thing the dealer went over with me on the car at pick up. He wanted to ensure I wouldn’t get caught out like this.
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How about you have your security pass in hand as your about to leave?

I work in a car park and the amount of staff that fumble about looking their staff pas just holds up the line.
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The pass / fob is clipped on my belt, with an extending chord - very convenient when walking around.

As mentioned, when I arrive in the morning, the gate is up, but is closed during the day - when I had to depart temporarily (normally I'm on the premises all day).
Not a normal action for me to depart midday.

Had I remembered / known the gate would be down I could have countered in a similar manner ... but it was a fath - that's the point!

I'd got used to using the electronic 'handbrake', but did almost miss the 'ain't broke so why fix it' mechanical handbrake.
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It was the first thing the dealer went over with me on the car at pick up. He wanted to ensure I wouldn’t get caught out like this.
Mine didn't even know at what distance the hands-free unlock works (without signal booster!!).
We tested it.

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The missus scenic has the set up where you have to press the brake or clutch in when starting the car. Does my head in.
I'm assuming it is not a keyless start then?
Apart from it now being necessary with keyless start, it is good practice to press the clutch in before starting any car. I have been doing this for over 30 years so it is second nature to me.
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Certainly a can of worms with my 8G exploits!!

I reckon in 10 years' time nobody will be able to drive a Mk I Ford Escort!!

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Mine didn't even know at what distance the hands-free unlock works (without signal booster!!).
We tested it.

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�� 45 minutes he spent out at the actual car with myself and the wife, going through all the settings, infotainment system, the new safety systems, the cap less fuel filler, tpms tyre pressures resetting system etc, the parking sensors and how temperamental they can be etc. Set up everything thing for us and paired both our phones for us as well. Then filled the fuel tank to the top. ��

And I have had 3 follow up phone calls from him since September, to see how the car is going and if I was having any issues.

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�� 45 minutes he spent out at the actual car with myself and the wife, going through all the settings, infotainment system, the new safety systems, the cap less fuel filler, tpms tyre pressures resetting system etc, the parking sensors and how temperamental they can be etc. Set up everything thing for us and paired both our phones for us as well. Then filled the fuel tank to the top. ��

And I have had 3 follow up phone calls from him since September, to see how the car is going and if I was having any issues.
Kinell!!

No chance of that at Holdcroft!!
I got 'You probably know more about it than I do' then we sat in the car and I started asking questions.
Very patient and tried to explain what he could ... but NOTHING like that.

Low pressure monitor?
Haven't a clue about that!
I check / reset every fortnight, visual and touch control of tyres daily and fluids weekly - that's old habit and I stick to it where weather and work permit.
(Most mines I visit 'insist' the control is daily before firing up - not many do that but ... )

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Certainly a can of worms with my 8G exploits!!

I reckon in 10 years' time nobody will be able to drive a Mk I Ford Escort!!

Al.
The way the Government is banging on about driverless vehicles, in ten years time there won't be any drivers.

Had a MKII Excort back in the day, excellent fun and quite pokey with the 1.6 X-Flow.
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Can definitely recommend Brian Doolan in Fitzpatrick’s garage in Kildare, looks after his customers. And knows every aspect of the cars he sells. He has a load of different videos up on YouTube about the various models they sell with loads of information.


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