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Unhappy Boot Lid "pistons" knackered.

When you open the boot you have the 2 piston levers either side which holds the boot lid open while you do your thing.

I've noticed in the last few weeks that it opens fine, but only upto head height. Normally it used to open upto 4 inches above my head height.

I noticed this when i've ended up wacking my head on the boot lid edge nearly 5 times now

If i push by hand it opens fine. What i'm basically trying to get at, is it doesnt open freely anymore like it use to. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this other than get a knew set? Anyone else having this problem?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 29th January 2010, 09:33
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Yea I've noticed this too recently - thought it was due to the cold
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Yea I've noticed this too recently - thought it was due to the cold
It is due to the cold - there's nothing wrong with the struts.
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mine used to do this in the summer as well but then i fitted a type r spoiler n it *** hardly go up 3/4 so got some new struts from http://www.sgs-engineering.com/pages/home they can also regas old sturts with a higher force
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Have you tried WD40 or silicon on the pistons ?
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If you complain, they will replace them BUT...BE WARNED...They will be the same again!!
They are not strong enough to cope with the weight of the boot.
The only fix is to replace them with aftermarket ones and pay yourself as JK says:
http://www.sgs-engineering.com/pages/home
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Boot lid gas struts

I had mine fail just before Christmas. After banging my head a couple of times they had to be dealt with. I was prepared to argue with the garage on safety grounds etc but they did not argue and replaced them under warranty.


The new ones work fine at the moment and its been absolutely freezing lately.

I'd see what the garage say. Mine took 15mins to diagnose, and 25 mins to change a about a week later.
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Hmm i noticed this too.. I doubt very much I will have any luck at the dealers though hehe
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Thanks for the advice guys. Glad its just not me getting a knock on the head!

Can anyone recommend a set from that site, as I dont know the dimensions, rod diameter or working force!?!?
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As I said before, they probably aren't knackered. They are gas struts, and the pressure in them is proportional to their temperature. When it's cold, the pressure in them drops and they then won't support the weight of the tailgate. It's basic physics. Years ago I worked for BT, and my Fiesta van was fitted with a security grille over the window in the tailgate after the locals in Salford had helped themselves to my tools a few times by smashing the glass. Unfortunately in Winter the gas struts were no longer up the job of keeping the tailgate up with the extra weight of the steel grille, which was a real pain in the head, literally! When the weather warms up a bit, all will be well
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My struts do the same ! cmon honda we are all not the same height as you in eastern lands ???? and yes i have a sore head too wi banging it off the boot lid lol,,,, dont half feel stupid too esp as it was in Morrisons car park
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As I said before, they probably aren't knackered. They are gas struts, and the pressure in them is proportional to their temperature. When it's cold, the pressure in them drops and they then won't support the weight of the tailgate. It's basic physics. Years ago I worked for BT, and my Fiesta van was fitted with a security grille over the window in the tailgate after the locals in Salford had helped themselves to my tools a few times by smashing the glass. Unfortunately in Winter the gas struts were no longer up the job of keeping the tailgate up with the extra weight of the steel grille, which was a real pain in the head, literally! When the weather warms up a bit, all will be well
Will keep that in mind. I've noticed that one some days it will open no problem.
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Stroke length: 260
Rod diameter: 8mm Rod 18mm Body
Rod end fitting: 10mm ball stud plastic cut back
Cylinder end fitting: 10mm ball stud plastic cut back
Force: 475

my force was put up to 575 but this is too much id say about 500 should surfice

or these are same as originals http://www.sgs-engineering.com/pages...da/range/Civic the top ones
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As I said before, they probably aren't knackered. They are gas struts, and the pressure in them is proportional to their temperature. When it's cold, the pressure in them drops and they then won't support the weight of the tailgate. It's basic physics. Years ago I worked for BT, and my Fiesta van was fitted with a security grille over the window in the tailgate after the locals in Salford had helped themselves to my tools a few times by smashing the glass. Unfortunately in Winter the gas struts were no longer up the job of keeping the tailgate up with the extra weight of the steel grille, which was a real pain in the head, literally! When the weather warms up a bit, all will be well
Basics physics it may well be but like others have said - mine does it in the summer too. I've only ever owned hatchbacks and this is the first car which i've had a problem with. Mine probably is worse when it's cold but it certainly won't be all well when the weather warms up.

I'm sure mine aren't knackered either but i'll be mentioning it when it goes in for a service next week.
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Winter, summer, spring, makes no difference. The strut lift force is insufficient for the weight of the hatch lid.
I always have had to push it up the last foot or so. (had the car 3 years now). Looks like the after market ones are the only answer as the Honda original ones are too weak.
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I noticed this too. They should be tested in the cold. My old car struts used to fly up.
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