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I wont go into too much detail about the paint on our cars becuase lets face it we all know its shockingly poor. To my disgust i recently heard back from HUK to say that my claim for a front end respray under warranty had been knocked back!!

Anyway, what i found out was that the way they test this for the claim is to measure the thickness of the paint and the adhesion to the bodywork....therefore basically if its thick enough and it sticks to the car they think thats ok..well it bloody isnt! The 'environmentally friendly' tree-hugging water-based paint they are now using is clearly far too weak and the tests above do not measure, in any way, the strength of this pain, my 59 plate has far more chips on it (in 6 months) that my 57 plate had in 2 years (non water-based paint) therefore what HUK are saying by knockin this claim back is that I can 'reasonably expect' my bonnet to look like its been covered in fag-ash within 6 months of ownership.

I know some of you have had similar claims turned down so im looking to get some names so that we can look into reporting this to some form of consumer watchdog and get something done about it because it is unacceptable!
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Already a big thread on this issue:
http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-fa...v-airtime.html
Ive traded mine in. One of the reasons was the paint..I had a claim turned down too. This was despite the fact that I had 200 stone chips!!
I masked them with red wax and layers of sealer and wax...made no difference

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Sorry mate never seen that thread...aye the paint is a joke I thought the non water based stuff was bad but this water based paint is a disgrace
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Never knew you could claim for this. Will give it a go anyway and let you guys know how I get on. Seems like it'll be futile but worth a go I suppose.
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Lads,

I wont go into too much detail about the paint on our cars becuase lets face it we all know its shockingly poor. To my disgust i recently heard back from HUK to say that my claim for a front end respray under warranty had been knocked back!!

Anyway, what i found out was that the way they test this for the claim is to measure the thickness of the paint and the adhesion to the bodywork....therefore basically if its thick enough and it sticks to the car they think thats ok..well it bloody isnt! The 'environmentally friendly' tree-hugging water-based paint they are now using is clearly far too weak and the tests above do not measure, in any way, the strength of this pain, my 59 plate has far more chips on it (in 6 months) that my 57 plate had in 2 years (non water-based paint) therefore what HUK are saying by knockin this claim back is that I can 'reasonably expect' my bonnet to look like its been covered in fag-ash within 6 months of ownership.

I know some of you have had similar claims turned down so im looking to get some names so that we can look into reporting this to some form of consumer watchdog and get something done about it because it is unacceptable!
I thought all cars from about 2003/4 had water based paints ?
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I thought all cars from about 2003/4 had water based paints ?
yep me too even thought the old stuff was illegal to be used now, our Nov 06 build type s definately has water based paint.

Isnt it funny that all VAG ( including seat and skoda ) use this paint but dont have the problems we have???
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I dunno I was told that was non water based back then and to be honest yes it chipped because the paint was so thin but it was nowhere near as bad as this one which I know for definite has the water based rubbish
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maybe wraps are the way forward? different colour any time and better resistance to chips and scratches when you sell it a quick polish and away you go.
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The funny thing for me is that my Sep 2009 Civic has resisted the chips far better than my March 2007 job.

Same route, speed, time.

Or maybe I've just been lucky.
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yep me too even thought the old stuff was illegal to be used now, our Nov 06 build type s definately has water based paint.

Isnt it funny that all VAG ( including seat and skoda ) use this paint but dont have the problems we have???
Well as an ex-civic and now VW owner I can tell you the water based paint isn't great for me either. My Georgia blue (similar to blueish silver) bonnet has several chips although the winter has exacerbated pot holes and debris being thrown about. I also read autoexpress and their 2 month old red GTD has a couple of huge chips which the reviewer was complaining about (ie similar issues to milano). Flat colours and bonnet shape can't help on the civic though, as we all know
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Just took delivery of 5th Type-R. All previous have suffered major stone chips. Imagine my disgust when after 20 miles I had already picked up 3 stone chips.
Went back to the dealer and complained about the lack of durability of the honda paint. They were very understanding and offered a full bonnet and front wing respray with a superior paint. Will take them up on the offer in a couple of weeks when I have put a few miles on her.
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Excellent mate congrats on that it's a pity not all dealers are that understanding!
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I too had a claim knocked back as the thickness was within Honda recommended levels! Unfortunately, due to how poor the paint is, the number of stonechips is just multiplying week-by-week. I will be paying closer attention to this sort of thing in the future and unless Honda sort out this problem, it'll be the last Honda I buy.
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I too had a claim knocked back as the thickness was within Honda recommended levels! Unfortunately, due to how poor the paint is, the number of stonechips is just multiplying week-by-week. I will be paying closer attention to this sort of thing in the future and unless Honda sort out this problem, it'll be the last Honda I buy.

same here everytime i wash it i see more chips on the bonnet - im gonna have to get it redone soon and its only 7 months old.

its a shame Honda wont do much about, they must know there paint is pants

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Re: Bonnet Respray Knocked Back? Register here!

Got some serious chips on mine and done less than 4k miles. have a claim with Honda uk who ain't very helpfully but the dealer is and he is still on at them trying his best but not holding out much luck though.


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I had the same thing with mine, took it back to Honda, they did a paint depth test, said it was within the legal requirements and that was that.
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It's a total get out clause for Honda this measurin the paint thickness because 9 times out of 10 it'll be within requirements but that does not determine in any way the strength of the paint which is the issue here!!
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or how the coats adhere to each other!!
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1 chip to 100 miles is what i was getting. i resprayed my bonnet and both wings with two pack basecoat red and two pack clear coat, did this after 1 year from new.
Two years now and have 0 chips, done 12000 mile after repaint, still looks like new.

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That's great mate! I'll maybe look into that, tryin to get a CF bonnet just now tho!
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