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59 CTR Handbrake failure

Not a happy bunny

I visited a friend last night, who lives on a sloap. Their drive way is like a hilll, and has a good incline. I parked the car, pulled the handbreak up and then left it there all good an dandy.

We arranged to go out, so a mate got into the back seats.... and the car began to go backwards!!!! Handbreak was still on (pulled to the top), so i jumped in the car, and slammed on the footbreak and put it into gear....

I was horrified!!! I couldnt believie this was happening! If it wasnt for the quick thinking, my lovely CTR would have a lovely smashed rear end

I have rung Honda, and they have no record to it being a known problem. I explained I remember a recall on the Type S handbreak, and asked if this could be linked.
He said hes going to investage it, and its booked in to be checked.

Not a happy bunny! Really starting to regreat my purchase on this car
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The handbrake recall was due to the handbrake lever releasing itself totally. The lever itself flies down with a bang. This is not a case of the disks contracting and the brake effectiveness reducing which is what has possibly happened in this instance. Was the handbrake lever pulled up to the point you physically couldn't pull it up anymore?

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The handbrake recall was due to the handbrake lever releasing itself totally. The lever itself flies down with a bang. This is not a case of the disks contracting and the brake effectiveness reducing which is what has possibly happened in this instance. Was the handbrake lever pulled up to the point you physically couldn't pull it up anymore?

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Yeap, always do! My other half always jokes about it "be careful, youll pull it off soon".

Luckly is wasnt here parking the car, her strength is poor, so would of gone straight back into parked cars
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Yeap, always do! My other half always jokes about it "be careful, youll pull it off soon".

Luckly is wasnt here parking the car, her strength is poor, so would of gone straight back into parked cars
If it was pulled up hard then I think it's best to get it checked out. Try to get into the habit of leaving it in gear when you park it up.

I think 'belt and braces' is best for your car from now on.
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do you have new rear pads/disks ?

If not...one of your calipers might be seized or the pad in the pad guide.
Only way to know is to jack the rear, chock wheels and make sure the handbrake locks the rears and releases them.

If it doesnt release and grip with the handbrake...stealers time.



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I know what you mean fella, the quallity of the fn2 is appauling and I am starting to regret my purchase as well
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I guess they will come back with something along the lines of ' the handbook states that the car should be left in gear........' but still it's a poor show, I have to agree.
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Always leave the car in gear when it's on a slope, I've done this with every car I've owned.

Better safe than sorry.
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Always leave the car in gear when it's on a slope, I've done this with every car I've owned.

Better safe than sorry.
Since owning a Civic and reading the stories on here I have made it a habit to leave it in gear.
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Yeah me too, my drive way is on a slight inclination and I always leave it in gear. Better safe!
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Angry More Handbrake Stories

Happened to me with a 2006 Civic and a friend with a 2009 Civic on the same day - Tuesday 1st June.

Mine was parked for an hour facing downwards on a slope before rolling off into a wall. The handbrake was still fully up at the end of its journey.

My friends' was parked for 20 mins before rolling backwards, across a road and into a neighbours trailer - again with the handbrake fully applied.

Its all well and good Honda saying the car should be left in gear but Honda only mention this under parking tips in the manual and not under handbrake use.

Any other reports of this happening recently ?, I'm trying to build a case to put to Honda.
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Not a happy bunny

I visited a friend last night, who lives on a sloap. Their drive way is like a hilll, and has a good incline. I parked the car, pulled the handbreak up and then left it there all good an dandy.

We arranged to go out, so a mate got into the back seats.... and the car began to go backwards!!!! Handbreak was still on (pulled to the top), so i jumped in the car, and slammed on the footbreak and put it into gear....

I was horrified!!! I couldnt believie this was happening! If it wasnt for the quick thinking, my lovely CTR would have a lovely smashed rear end

I have rung Honda, and they have no record to it being a known problem. I explained I remember a recall on the Type S handbreak, and asked if this could be linked.
He said hes going to investage it, and its booked in to be checked.

Not a happy bunny! Really starting to regreat my purchase on this car
Mine is going in for its first service next week and I have a long list of things for them to look at. The handbrake is top of the list. It has progressively loosened over the last 10 months from new... when fully released the handbrake lever rattles about and has a lot of slack... and now to put the handbrake on, I have to pull it a great amount with a lot of force... this is much more than previously. I thought it might be the cable getting slack? However this is definitely not right for 10K mile...

I'll keep you posted after the service

Oh and yes the car has moved back when people have gotten into the back before.... I put it down to me not applying the handbrake properly but now I am thinking otherwise
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Since owning a Civic and reading the stories on here I have made it a habit to leave it in gear.
me too
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me to always leave it in gear i feel safer doing it.
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Mine is going in for its first service next week and I have a long list of things for them to look at. The handbrake is top of the list. It has progressively loosened over the last 10 months from new... when fully released the handbrake lever rattles about and has a lot of slack... and now to put the handbrake on, I have to pull it a great amount with a lot of force... this is much more than previously. I thought it might be the cable getting slack? However this is definitely not right for 10K mile...

I'll keep you posted after the service

Oh and yes the car has moved back when people have gotten into the back before.... I put it down to me not applying the handbrake properly but now I am thinking otherwise
The handbarke is very easy to adjust from inside the car as long as you've got a socket set.
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59 Civic 1.8

Car was 4 months old (from new) and would not hold on drive way
even when applying footbrake and then handbrake on full
putting it in 1st gear was only option.

Took back to dealers and it was much better as they tightened the
handbrake - but now 3000 miles later if its not in gear, it will roll backwards.

Had several other cars and never had this problem.
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Can't believe it today I actually witnessed my car (ctr) roll back on the hill at the mother-in-laws!!! I sat in the car and waited for the mrs to come back.

Feet off pedals and hand break on, first a strange noise like metal cooling about a min after stopping then a few minutes later another noise and then I realised I was very slowly rolling back!!! Even tho the hb was full on.

I am really starting to regret buying a jap car built in this country glad it will be going next year. Until then I will just leave it in gear.
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The handbarke is very easy to adjust from inside the car as long as you've got a socket set.
Thanks I am aware of this. However to adjust this myself defeats the point of having a car built correctly in the first place. Hence the dealer can correct this issue and if the car rolls down a hill into a bus then I will not be liable for altering the handbrake .... And Honda will be
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Thanks I am aware of this. However to adjust this myself defeats the point of having a car built correctly in the first place. Hence the dealer can correct this issue and if the car rolls down a hill into a bus then I will not be liable for altering the handbrake .... And Honda will be
My handbrake was fine but I still took some of ths slack out and saved me wasting loads of time at the dealers.
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I heard a lot of similar cases when I had an MG, basically after you get out your breaks are hot and have expanded yet as they cool down they condense and voila... Rolling car.
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