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HELP! Steering Wheel Controls not working and Check System warning

Hi all, hope someone can help?

Just had all my steering wheel remote controls stop working and not lit up.

I was parking the car and heard something which didn't quite sound right and all the controls stopped working and I had the orange display Check System and the red airbag light come on.

Doing a general Internet search it seems that the cable reel may have broken or come loose. Anyone had any dealings with this?

Also saw that on another Forum it was suggested that if the steering has been disconnected at the gearbox this can also cause the reel to break as it messes up the alignment? I just happen to have had my clutch replaced a couple of weeks ago!

I don't like the idea of not having an airbag working properly and also no steering remote controls.

I really hope this can be a quick simple and very cheap fix as I have very little spare money at the mo, and the MOT is due in a couple of weeks!

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From my experience it is 50/50 chance, whether it got disconnected at the bottom end (gearbox) or the top (steering - clock spring). Good thing is it happened while you were turning the steering right? That can suggest it physically unplugged itself. Also good thing that all the lights and controlled stopped working which makes it more likely to be unplugged then physically thorn all the way through.

You can strip the steering down yourself it is not big deal i did on mine as i had problems only with the controls on the right side of the steering. However, if you don's see a clock spring issue there, you need to take into a garage...

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That sounds promising. Any clues on how to strip the steering wheel down, what about the airbag?
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The most common suggestion is to take the battery off, so it wont be possible for the airbag to pop. However i didnt, you have to be really clumsy to trigger it why opening. There were 2 or 3 (it was in march sorry) star screws holding the top panel with the airbag (they are easily accessible if you turn the steering all the way and look from the back/dash), from then you can start checking what is going on and if need to further disassemble.
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Thanks... So it is accessed from the back of the wheel and not through the front?

I'll have a look a little later and see what I can see!!
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Disconnect the battery and wait a minute or two so the airbag won't be a problem. If I recall correctly there are two screws: one on the right side of the steering wheel and the other on the left, behind the info and phone controls. That should get you started, its a simple job, just make sure you put some kind of a marking on the center hub so you align the steering wheel correctly, when putting it back together.
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I just found a pic i took when i was doing it, once the panel is loose from the screws there are to pins you have to disconnect, one for the airbag and one for the horn (the yellow one there i believe is the airbag).
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That's great.
Thanks for the help and photo. I'll let you know how I get on.
Really hope it's a nice simple fix.
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it might be weirder than you think, for example my info/sell & cruise controls didnt work because the horn connector was making short circuit ?!? I've simply isolated it properly and the controls started working again...

Hope you will see the clock spring connector unplugged and that would be all.
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Just seen on eBay a clock spring from a type R, anyone know if they are all the same?
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Just seen on eBay a clock spring from a type R, anyone know if they are all the same?
Yes they are the same, however to be sure its from there you have to unplug it in both ends, where the top is right in the middle (white connector from my pic above) and use something like the fancier voltmeter to check if the lines are torn somewhere...
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I'll let you know how I get on
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OK so I have taken the clock spring out and could not see any plugs unplugged!

Does anyone know if the clock spring should turn round and round and round or should there be some resistance?

I'm beginning to think that maybe the spring has broken? As I don't think it should keep spinning round in the same direction, I think it should stop at some point?

Anyone please help
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Wow, you took the whole thing off? Coudn't you just get some ohm/volt meter and try at the bottom end if resistance change when you click on buttons?

There is a way of changing it, because it should be centered in a way you can put it back (or the new one) usually right in the middle, so when you turn full left or right you wont tear it.
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Just been to Honda who have confirmed that the clock spring part should not spin round and round like mine does.

Bad news is, it's 276 to order the new part!!

Anyone know if these parts are generic across all civics? As I have found some on eBay for quite a bit less but they don't say that they are from a 2.2 ICTDI EX
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I don't want to be the one to blame thats why i put 99.9% sure they are all the same. But just to be sure ask the seller on ebay to give you or better to take a pic of the SN and then check by number.
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