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Due to personal reasons, on Dec 23rd I decided that I would not use Millie for a couple of weeks.
I decided to get back behind the wheel on Monday, Jan 8th Millie started first time and I visited the local super-stores.
After the fourth store, Millie decided not to co-operate and refused to start!
The dashboard looked like firework night, every light buzzer and indicator, including the auto wipers came on in turn, but the starter bit didn't!
Honda Assistance were called and the AA man arrived within 15 mins!!!!
He diagnosed the fault - flat battery, and using the scientific tools at his disposal soon got Millie up & running again.
No complaints at all - especially the reaction time by the AA, but a word of warning, lesson learnt.
If your vehicle is not used for any length of time try and keep the battery charged up.

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Battery conditioner.

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Charles, I've ordered one of these as you do not have to disconnect the battery from the car. I don't use my Civic so much in the winter and once this is connected you can leave it on all the time without any harm to the cars electronics. Just remember to put a sign on your steering wheel to remind you it's plugged into the mains before driving off!

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He diagnosed the fault - flat battery, and using the scientific tools at his disposal soon got Millie up & running again.
Just trying to figure out what drained the battery.
Did you leave the autolights on?
I think there's a warning against that in the handbook.
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Battery conditioner.

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http://www.djsmail.co.uk/afbc.asp

Charles, I've ordered one of these as you do not have to disconnect the battery from the car. I don't use my Civic so much in the winter and once this is connected you can leave it on all the time without any harm to the cars electronics. Just remember to put a sign on your steering wheel to remind you it's plugged into the mains before driving off!
Well I've just connected my new Battery Conditioner (took 2 mins) and before switching on the mains power it showed my battery was on 12v. As soon as the mains was switched on it started trickle charging.

I can now leave it connected as it will moniter itself to switch on/off as required. There was plenty of room to connect with the clips provided and I was able to close the bonnet, lock the car and set the alarm. It's now working away in my garage.

I've wrapped a yellow post-it note round my keys as a reminder!
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I've been using a similar thing on my motorbike for years.
As long as you remember to disconnect it before you drive off it's fine
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I am rather suprised the battery run down so quick as it would have started charging with the engine running. It sound like something has been drawing current to me?
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How many weeks was the car not in use charles?
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During this christmas when I went to my parents little town, I left the car in a garage, but it was rather cold, even inside the temp was about 5-7 C.

Left it stopped during 5 days and it did start ok on the 6th day.

That was the longest period that it stayed "nice and quiet" in rest
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Well I've just connected my new Battery Conditioner (took 2 mins) and before switching on the mains power it showed my battery was on 12v. As soon as the mains was switched on it started trickle charging.

I can now leave it connected as it will moniter itself to switch on/off as required. There was plenty of room to connect with the clips provided and I was able to close the bonnet, lock the car and set the alarm. It's now working away in my garage.

I've wrapped a yellow post-it note round my keys as a reminder!
Well I've just checked it this morning and the top green led flickered on (the top green led indicates a fully charged battery in good condition). When I checked it yesterday the second green led showed just 12v (that's after a week of the car not being used).
I've now wired in the battery connections permanently so that I just need to use the 'snap' connector in future.
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bounce75 I'm with you. If the battery had enough charge to start the car a few times it doesn't make sense that the battery would then go flat as it would have been even more charged while driving.
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On that intial start up the car, looking back, it only just made it. But made it it did!
The day was a bit foggy, so all my lights were on, the a c was also trying to warm up the motor and the stops I made were frequent and not that far apart.
One of the biggest loads on the battery is that starting up bit.
I just did too many too often!
As for the charging bit, thanks for the tips but I already have a Halfords 'Fully Automatic' battery charger that has a 'maintenance cycle to it, but now I will use it to keep me safe in the future.

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My Halford thingy sounds like your machine by your description.

Just gotta learn to use it!!!

8 months on and Millie is still my dream machine.

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I can now leave it connected as it will moniter itself to switch on/off as required. There was plenty of room to connect with the clips provided and I was able to close the bonnet, lock the car and set the alarm. It's now working away in my garage
Allan40alt checked there was clearance to close the bonnet and that it didn't touch the connecting clips. Anyone thinking of doing this please be sure you dont have the crocodile clips sticking up such that the bonnet will cause a short circuit across them, or you could risk some serious damage!
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Yup, got them big crockie clips as well.

The machine is actually too baulky to allow the bonnet to close so I've extended the leads by 4 metres and now the charger sits comfy in the boot.

No rear wiper to get in the way!

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Allan40alt checked there was clearance to close the bonnet and that it didn't touch the connecting clips. Anyone thinking of doing this please be sure you don't have the crocodile clips sticking up such that the bonnet will cause a short circuit across them, or you could risk some serious damage!
Yes, at first I put mine on at a 'sideways' angle.

Be careful using a standard charger as the manual does say disconnect battery!

With the Battery Conditioner I'm using there is no need to disconnect the battery, hence I have connected the more permanent method for using it.

Running the leads in line with the central bonnet latch gives adequate clearance.
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Charles I am still suprised there was only just enough power to start the car after 2 weeks, it still sounds like something draining the power to me.
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Charles I am still suprised there was only just enough power to start the car after 2 weeks, it still sounds like something draining the power to me.
Well it can't be his rear wiper!
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This business of having to use a charger is really not on! I know its a safe way out, but any half decent modern car shouldn't need it. My car lives outside, there is no convenient power, and I'm not prepared anyway to have to connect up when I park the car.

Every car I have owned from elderly minis through to a 12 cylinder Jag has started reliably after being left more that a couple of weeks. True, I have been sensible in the use of electrics on short runs, but any modern car should be 100% reliable at starting daily under all reasonable conditions - including short runs, being left for a couple of weeks etc. without having to buy and use an external charger to be certain it will start! After all - thats the sort of journey a lot of people do!
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This business of having to use a charger is really not on! I know its a safe way out, but any half decent modern car shouldn't need it. My car lives outside, there is no convenient power, and I'm not prepared anyway to have to connect up when I park the car.

Every car I have owned from elderly minis through to a 12 cylinder Jag has started reliably after being left more that a couple of weeks. True, I have been sensible in the use of electrics on short runs, but any modern car should be 100% reliable at starting daily under all reasonable conditions - including short runs, being left for a couple of weeks etc. without having to buy and use an external charger to be certain it will start! After all - thats the sort of journey a lot of people do!
Your quite right. I've left mine for more than two weeks before now. It was just reading of peoples problems I thought I would use a battery conditioner as I keep my Civic garaged.

All of my previous cars have been left for a fortnight, or more, without any problem.
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I hear what you you all say.

The AA guy checked the battery and all the electrics and found everything performing as spec.

I still think that I asked too much from Millie that day............ but it won't happen again!!!

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