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Does anyone know what formats are acceptable on a usb flash drive when it is used as music source eg FAT32/ex fat/ntfs?
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FAT32 for sure and I think ex fat too but not sure.
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I've only ever used smallish USB so FAT or NTFS.

64Gb and over will be exFat and may cause issues. If you're using FAT then check the bitrate of the recordings as some are incompatible, and there should be a list of compatible ones in the manual.
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I'm using a Samsung flashdrive of 128GB in FAT32
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fat32 here too. ateotd, it's android based so the opensource filesystems should work better than the Microsoft proprietry NTFS/exFAT systems. i do think I ran ntfs very early in ownership, but it's not ideal for flash drives.

not found any issues with the 9gen connect system on bitrate, i think i've got a few 320kb/s mp3's in my collection. Flac work well if you don't care for compressed mp3's. the 9gen manual is useless for supported codec info.


edit: am i right in saying the HU has to officially support ntfs though - needed for garmin updates as the main map file exceeds 4gb limit of fat32?

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I am not sure about the 10G Civic, but it appears to be FAT32 for the Honda Connect in the facelift version 9G.

If you want to use a USB drive greater than 32GB you will not be able to format it with FAT32 using Windows, but you can download a utility called FAT32 Format which is very simple to use and allows drives greater than 32GB to be formatted using FAT32. I currently have two 128GB drives in my Civic Tourer.

Note that there is a limit on the number of files (65535) and folders (700) for each USB drive that appears to be a limitation of the Honda Connect Audio player; if you have more than 700 folders, which I initially did, you will not be able to play them all as they do not appear on the screen. If you use the Music app, this limitation does not appear to apply and I think it will see the content of both USB drives at the same time, but I stand to be corrected on this.

Further details on formatting large drives using FAT32 can be found by searching for FAT32 Format, unfortunately I cannot post a link as I do not currently have enough posts.

Another useful utility that allows you to order your music files alphabetically, otherwise they appear in the order they were copied to the USB drive, is DriveSort, this can be found by searching for Anerty's Lair DriveSort.

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Another useful utility that allows you to order your music files alphabetically, otherwise they appear in the order they were copied to the USB drive, is DriveSort, this can be found by searching for Anerty's Lair DriveSort.
Yep, I use this too
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... and just to be different I like mine in a set order.

So when I add or remove a track I zap the USB and re copy the whole lot across from my dedicated PC folder.

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Now, there's some variety..

I do the same; Maintain a "HONDA" Folder on the PC where everything gets sorted - I copy this over in full whenever making changes to the USB. For others, I wouldn't reccomend keeping the collection on USB alone for the risk of loss and the chance of corruption in a shutdown while-reading use; My in-car USB always seems to accrue a Lost Items directory.

I wonder how the android Headunit would handle an Ext4 usb...

For those with mild OCD, I've personally tagged all of my tracks with MP3TAG - Correct metadata, and album art on everything makes it feel much more complete!
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Flac work well if you don't care for compressed mp3's. the 9gen manual is useless for supported codec info.

Are you sure about that? Our connect headunits support FLAC? Any special apps that need to be side loaded? TIA
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yes, all music i've bought in the last 2 years is flac (i buy from junodownloads). its THE reason i use juno. I'm on the 9G connect system, unmodified HU with the default player.

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Ah 9G, thought that someone had found out how to get FLAC to work natively on the 10G (this is the 10G section after all).


From what I read; the 9G headunit has to convert the FLAC into a readable format (some suggest mp3, although some suggest wav) which is a processor heavy task before it even gets to the DAC and is usually a subpar conversion compared to playing a natively supported format or doing the conversion properly on a computer. i.e. the 9G headunit's player does not uncompress the FLAC to PCM to feed into the DAC, but another bit of code converts the FLAC into mp3 or wav (depending on whom you believe online) which the player can handle and in turn sends the PCM signal to the DAC.

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I usually prefer FLAC, But for use in the car I just use high bitrate MP3.

I must say, when I installed JetAudio on the head unit, the equaliser settings vastly improved sound quality IMO; It's a shame the default audio app doesn't have more in the way of equaliser settings.
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Ah 9G, thought that someone had found out how to get FLAC to work natively on the 10G (this is the 10G section after all).

so they actually removed features on the 10g!? poor show!
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Jetaudio natively supports FLAC and will produce a PCM stream for the DAC.


Yes the FLAC to mp3 or wav conversion workaround they had in place in the 9G is no longer present in the 10G from what I've been reading online.
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i've a current gen jazz (2018, EX model i think) as a courtesy car while my 9g CTR is in for work. Penny dropped this morning that i've been listening to flac files. non-satnav version of the HU if that makes any difference.
Flac files are from junodownload.com - so it's all DRM free etc.



Could there be an update to the 10g civic or have the purposely blocked native flac support for that model?
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