Clutch Help! unwanted noise from type r - Civinfo
 5Likes
  • 2 Post By flashy
  • 1 Post By musegroove
  • 2 Post By anthropolyte
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 01:20 Thread Starter
 
J_r053's Avatar
 
Join Date: 6th January 2017
Posts: 11
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Garage
Unhappy Help! unwanted noise from type r

All,

Just bought a beautiful black fn2 07 plate non nav, I searched for months and finally found a lovely one, full Honda history, 67k miles and brilliant nick. After driving it just under a week I noticed a noise that has been there the whole time but only recently realised it doesn't sound too good.

If I'm in neutral, stationary, handbrake up etc, it's a ticking noise. If I put my clutch in, it goes. The biting point feels relatively normal and there is no dodgy noises whilst driving or changing gear(which is smooth and not non-normal) and no whining screech if I engine brake.

When the fan comes on it gets worse. Haven't noticed if it's just when the engine is warm or if it's when it's cold aswell, will see tomorrow and add to the bottom of the post.


I have seen multiple threads on other forums about a few different ideas. Can someone please help me in terms of diagnostics. Just want to get to the bottom of it and hopefully it's just me being very picky. Having not owned a type r before, I don't know if this is normal or if it isn't but nothing to worry about.

Thanks in advance,

Jack
J_r053 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 01:33
Supporter
 
flashy's Avatar
 
Car: '06 Cosmic Grey EP3 prem CTR
Join Date: 30th June 2015
Location: Swindon ENGLAND
Posts: 8,338
Thanks: 377
Thanked 656 Times in 619 Posts
iTrader: (13)
Is it a quietish ticking noise? Could be the pcv valve.
flashy is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 01:41
Supporter
 
flashy's Avatar
 
Car: '06 Cosmic Grey EP3 prem CTR
Join Date: 30th June 2015
Location: Swindon ENGLAND
Posts: 8,338
Thanks: 377
Thanked 656 Times in 619 Posts
iTrader: (13)
The way to check it is to pop the bonnet whilst the engine is running. If you hear a scratchy ticking noise, squeeze the pipe that comes out the top of the inlet manifold, you can see it heading left in the pic. If the noise stops it needs a new pcv valve. Easy to do yourself and about 40 quid.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_0771.jpg (66.8 KB, 33 views)
Farqui and Jamesoxborrow like this.
flashy is offline  
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 07:06
Supporter
 
Jamesoxborrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10th April 2016
Location: Weymouth, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 903
Thanks: 7
Thanked 104 Times in 97 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I have the exact same with my 2.2 cdti. In mine, if u look at your clutch housing and see the fork that attaches to the clutch release baring on the inside, where the cable joins to it on the outside there is a little grommet looking thing that has corroded. If I put my fingers on it, the highly repetitive noise stops, I have also lubed up the area which solved it for a few weeks. This explains why it goes when the clutch pedal is pressed as it pulls in the cable attached to the fork.

For me it's a very high frequency squeek/noise. I will try and take a pic later of the area so u can see if it's the same for yours.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Jamesoxborrow is offline  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 09:11
250bhp.... finally :)
 
musegroove's Avatar
 
Car: 08 CTR, Milano Red
Join Date: 2nd September 2014
Location: manchester GB
Posts: 4,264
Thanks: 136
Thanked 429 Times in 409 Posts
iTrader: (8)
I would've said it was the clutch release bearing as they're known to rattle or squeak hence why it stops when you push the clutch in.

If the fan makes it louder however it must be really buggered or it's something else completely. PCV is worth checking as it takes 10 seconds to test.

Last edited by musegroove; 7th January 2017 at 10:33.
musegroove is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 10:20
Supporter
 
Typersam1's Avatar
 
Join Date: 26th April 2013
Location: Bristol ENGLAND
Posts: 1,775
Thanks: 45
Thanked 145 Times in 137 Posts
iTrader: (6)
I would say release bearing and the noise from PCv is more of a grindin scratchy noise
Typersam1 is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 10:34
Supporter
 
Monty0881's Avatar
 
Join Date: 18th October 2015
Location: Doncaster GB
Posts: 365
Thanks: 17
Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts
iTrader: (3)
Input shaft bearing on the gearbox I'd say. My ep3 had exactly the same symptoms...

I thought it sounded like the release bearing but my mechanic mate and another type r forum said otherwise 😔

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Monty0881 is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 10:36
Supporter
 
atom3624's Avatar
 
Car: 10G Civic Prestige
Join Date: 18th December 2014
Location: Back to Cold, Wet and Windy Blighty!! GB
Posts: 1,844
Thanks: 320
Thanked 288 Times in 247 Posts
iTrader: (1)
How long can you continue with 'moderate' ISB noise before it becomes an issue, or is it a case of keep going until / if / as / when it fails?

My 2.2EX DERV's the same.

Al.
atom3624 is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 10:41
Supporter
 
Monty0881's Avatar
 
Join Date: 18th October 2015
Location: Doncaster GB
Posts: 365
Thanks: 17
Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts
iTrader: (3)
I read on another forum that people just kept using them... 1 lad did 50k with the noise, didn't get any worse. Does do your head in though!! I found that if I drove very steady the sound went away... but then give it the beans and it comes back.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Monty0881 is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 13:09
250bhp.... finally :)
 
musegroove's Avatar
 
Car: 08 CTR, Milano Red
Join Date: 2nd September 2014
Location: manchester GB
Posts: 4,264
Thanks: 136
Thanked 429 Times in 409 Posts
iTrader: (8)
If so, good time for a new clutch and lsd
Monty0881 likes this.
musegroove is offline  
post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 7th January 2017, 13:53
Supporter
 
Monty0881's Avatar
 
Join Date: 18th October 2015
Location: Doncaster GB
Posts: 365
Thanks: 17
Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts
iTrader: (3)
The perfect excuse!

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Monty0881 is offline  
post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 9th January 2017, 01:39 Thread Starter
** Thread starter **
 
J_r053's Avatar
 
Join Date: 6th January 2017
Posts: 11
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Garage
I changed the pcv after fearing one of the tensioner bearings was on its way out. Definitely not the pcv since it is brand new. Yes, it's like a ticking noise. Fan making it worse could just be the added noise maybe. Going to take it to Honda tech tomorrow so they can have a listen and will update. Hondatech is Based in London, anyone heard of them or can reccomend Honda specialists in

Jack
J_r053 is offline  
post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 9th January 2017, 06:48
Supporter
 
anthropolyte's Avatar
 
Car: 2008 Type R FN2, NHB
Join Date: 2nd October 2014
Location: Bristol, UK GB
Posts: 1,211
Thanks: 58
Thanked 222 Times in 196 Posts
iTrader: (7)
Just for reference, if the noise goes away when you depress the clutch, it's not the release bearing. It's the input shaft bearing on the gearbox. I had mine fail as well, and had the whole box refurbished (new bearings throughout).

For good Honda specialists near London, look at TGM in Fleet and TDI South (I think they're somewhere in Essex).
musegroove and Monty0881 like this.
anthropolyte is offline  
post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 9th January 2017, 07:08
Supporter
 
Monty0881's Avatar
 
Join Date: 18th October 2015
Location: Doncaster GB
Posts: 365
Thanks: 17
Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts
iTrader: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthropolyte View Post
Just for reference, if the noise goes away when you depress the clutch, it's not the release bearing. It's the input shaft bearing on the gearbox. I had mine fail as well, and had the whole box refurbished (new bearings throughout).

For good Honda specialists near London, look at TGM in Fleet and TDI South (I think they're somewhere in Essex).
That's exactly what my mechanic told me on my old ep3.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Monty0881 is offline  
post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 10th January 2017, 17:56 Thread Starter
** Thread starter **
 
J_r053's Avatar
 
Join Date: 6th January 2017
Posts: 11
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Garage
Thanks all for your help, drove round the m25 to get to tom at TGM today. Lovely bloke who knew what he was going on about. After a half hour listen and chat with him, he said it's just the clutch. Nothing to worry about with the box. Thank F£&!€ for that. Thanks to everyone who helped and also thanks to anthropolyte who suggested TGM. I'll be booking in for a new clutch kit and some new brake pads all round in a couple of weeks.

Jack
J_r053 is offline  
Reply

  Civinfo > 8th Generation Euro Honda Civic (2006 - 2011) > Engines and Transmission (8G)

Tags
clutch , gearbox , noise

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Civinfo forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Your User Name is the name that appears by all your posts on the forum, and so should not be your email address.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Unwanted attention seamill77 Type-R 41 3rd July 2014 11:45
The Unwanted Italian Charles_Harding Any non Civic chat here please! 1 1st July 2008 19:14

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome