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Question Honda Sensing - Disabling steering wheel feedback

Is there a way to disable the steering wheel 'feedback' when presumably Honda Sensing is is detecting something and 'waking you up'?

This sometimes happens when on a country road with a varying camber, I get a 'steering wheel symbol' in the HUD and the steering wheel itself shakes from side to side.
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That is caused by the LKAS system. It can be turned on and off by pressing or holding in the LKAS switch on the panel below the steering wheel.
It works great on motorway and main road but not so well on narrow roads or if road marking are bad.

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There is also an option under vehecle settings to change it to warning only if u dont want to disable it completly

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How to find the setting on headunit

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Just a slight correction for completeness.

The switch that AZC is indicating in his post #3 pic is not the LKAS switch, it is the Road Departure Mitigation (RDM) switch. (Handbook pp 576)
The Land Keeping Assist System (LKAS) switch (Handbook pp 586) is the R/H bottom switch of the group of cruise control etc. switches on the R/H steering wheel spoke.

Driver Assist setup options are on Handbook pp174.

Having said that, it is of course possible that either the RDM or the LKAS systems are giving you the 'steering wheel symbol' and 'wheel shake' symptoms that you have. But it's deffo one of them.
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Oh yeah i missed that one. I must check these out to see which one stops the vibration. Id say one does the steering control to keep car in lane and other is the warning system.

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Not quite certain of the difference in operation myself, but the manual suggests that the RD applies the brakes and the LKAS doesn't.
From OP's description of what's happening (on country lanes) i suspect it's the RD. If he switches off LKAS (it's off by default), it must be RD that's giving his symptoms, so 'your' knee level switch will 'do the trick'. And perhaps he has it set to Warning Only to give the icon and wheel shake symptoms.
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Ok so had a play around with this on my way home tonight.

Both systems (LKAS and Lane Mitigation) enable the steering wheel wobble and warning.

If one system is disabled the other will enable the wobble warning.

The only way to stop the wobble and warning is to disable both systems, LKAS on the steering wheel control and also disable Land Mitigation via panel button near drivers knee. Or to change the setting to warning only.

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Does setting to 'warning only' remove the wheel shake or just inhibit the braking?
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I disabled both on mine already from the begin I had the car. Sometimes I use the LKAS when I'm scrolling trough my music folders and my eyes aren't 100% on the road.
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This happens almost never so the conclusion is that I almost never use it

Otherwise...switch on LKAS and ACC and let the car drive for you
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But the LKAS keeps nagging you to hold the wheel and put in some sort of steering input after a while
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But the LKAS keeps nagging you to hold the wheel and put in some sort of steering input after a while
It's not like I'm driving blindly, I do watch the road but only not so focused as to when I'm not searching the music folders.
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Don't forget the Highway Code mentions that in the presence of other vehicles (so admitted that it is not compulsory at all times) you should show your intentions to make a manoeuvre - which changing lanes is.

It annoys me when I'm filtering between lanes, or simply changing into a more convenient one as cars ahead are parked, with nobody to indicate to, so I don't, so it 'wobbles'.

I'm only hoping that Honda drivers aren't opting for the indicator delete option that most BMW, Audi, Merc and Ford Kuga drivers do!!

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Thanks for all of the input. Disabling the LKAS (confirmed by showing as disabled in the HUD) using the button near my knee seems to have stopped this for me.

I note that with the cruise control display mode it always shows LKAS irrespective of me disabling it. Why is this?
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Because the button near your knees is Road Departure Mitigation (RDM) and not LKAS. If you switch on the main ACC it also activates LKAS but it's not switched on unless you press the LKAS button at your steering wheel (same as with the ACC).
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The Green LKAS indicator shows that LKAS is ready to use, it is only active once the LKAS steering wheel button is pressed and either outlined or solid white lines appear in the display, the same for ACC, until a speed is set.


If there is a problem with either LKAS or ACC these indicator will be orange and you will more than likely have a main meter warning showing.


Both ACC and LKAS are made ready for use by pressing the MAIN button
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type r right?
trying to decide over a fk2 or 8 what happened to point and shot driving all these driving aids are putting me off!
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