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£225.91 plus VAT for a new front bumper, came painted, from Honda. Had mine replaced thanks to being run off the road into a grass verge!
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Hi, iím in Shropshire and not so far from Evesham.

Iím most probably, if the 3rd party paying agrees, going to order a new rear bumper face and strip the old (still good) parts off the damaged bumper myself and then refit everything. Did the bumper lower, grilles and parking sensors come off easily, no breakages?

My dealer can do the bumper face retail -15% (£464 is retail base cost exc. VAT), even then iím looking at a discounted cost of £473 with the VAT. Would you be happy to let me know which dealer you used, if itís easier I can pass on my email?

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£225.91 plus VAT for a new front bumper, came painted, from Honda. Had mine replaced thanks to being run off the road into a grass verge!
Why is the front so much cheaper than the rear!? They’re pretty much the same in sizing.
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I will will see what i can do, unfortunately its a bit hard doing it on my phone so will try on my computer, i will see if i can put together a step by step in the how to section if i can 🙂
Yes ordered direct from my Honda dealer.
If you could then that would be awesome. I can see this being a very popular question
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Hi, all parts came off without breaking anything, but i will say take your time in removing everything as when removing the black parts from the bumper can be quite fiddly to unclip from the rear and very easily scratched. Make sure once all parts are removed WASH everything off before fitting to the new bumper, this is very important as the amount of crud and grit that gets between the plastics can be quite a bit as you dont want to scratch your new bumper whilst assembly. I will also say get someone to help you remove and refit the bumper as there are a few sharp edges where the rear quarters and bumper meets as you dont want to scratch any paint on your quarter panels.

I got the bumper through Starting Honda Worcester if this helps, weather they gave me discount they didnt say lol.
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I will will see what i can do, unfortunately its a bit hard doing it on my phone so will try on my computer, i will see if i can put together a step by step in the how to section if i can 🙂
Yes ordered direct from my Honda dealer.


If you could then that would be awesome. I can see this being a very popular question
So can i too lol, it will be only a rough guide as i dont think i have enough pics for a complete step by step but i have shown the main parts of removing the bumper and dismantled state 🙂
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Awesome! Somethings better than nothing
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Let me know how it looks
Looks better this time round, but haven't been able to have a really good look. They didn't respray the whole bumper, just removed it this time a did them same corner. Only time will tell
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Hi,

I had someone reverse into my stationary Civic just this week. The paint is scuffed and one fixing area on the bumper face has torn, hence it’s a new bumper....

71500-TGG-E00ZH FACE ASSY., RR. BUMPER

The bumper cost is £464 + VAT and a dealer quoted £105 + VAT to remove/strip/replace. A dealer may do a better deal if you ask them nicely.

As the new bumper will be pre-painted, at the Honda factory in Swindon, you’ll get a good colour match.

You shouldn’t have to go through the hassle of a smart repair, it’s pretty much a brand new car.


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The usual cost these days for respraying at many Honda approved bodyshops is £250 + VAT = £300 per panel. It sounds as if you got quoted for a smart repair if they quoted £105 plus VAT. That's approx 1 hour labour + paint. There's no way they could do the job described in that time in my opinion (remove, strip back to bare plastic, sand, undercoat, top coat, clear coat, polish, re-fit etc), irrespective of what they told you. There's a reason why it's around £250+VAT at mainstream bodyshops - it's because of the prep time taken for sanding and that excludes the time taken to remove the part from the car. That said, nothing wrong with a smart repair. Smart repairers can make some excellent quality repairs for a lot less than the full cost.

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That’s to replace the bumper, not to respray it. Honda bumpers come pre-painted from the factory. Basically it’s a swap out (extra trim ported over).
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Just had the repair costs from Hondaís (Crewe) approved bodyshop and the cost of repair is a whooping £700!!!



At this price itís cheaper to go replacement rather than repair.
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Whatever happened to 'deformable bumpers' (and self-repairing paint - Nissan were trying that weren't they?) ?

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Just had the repair costs from Honda’s (Crewe) approved bodyshop and the cost of repair is a whooping £700!!!
They're having lots of parts... you'd have to to pay for the bumper on top, so another £464 + VAT... you're not going to save that on the paint side.


The Bumper comes bare, so you have to reuse all the black plastic parts
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I have my car booked for the 17th July with Shine through Smart Insurance. I’ll post pics before and after once its done.
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They're having lots of parts... you'd have to to pay for the bumper on top, so another £464 + VAT... you're not going to save that on the paint side.


The Bumper comes bare, so you have to reuse all the black plastic parts


The bumper is pre-painted out of the factory. Honda have always supplied pre-painted bumpers. Same for my FN2 and S2000. The £464 is for the painted bumper. Youíll just need to swap over the existing trim.
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I have my car booked for the 17th July with Shine through Smart Insurance. Iíll post pics before and after once its done.

Perfect. Let us know how the repair goes.
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The usual cost these days for respraying at many Honda approved bodyshops is £250 + VAT = £300 per panel. It sounds as if you got quoted for a smart repair if they quoted £105 plus VAT. That's approx 1 hour labour + paint. There's no way they could do the job described in that time in my opinion (remove, strip back to bare plastic, sand, undercoat, top coat, clear coat, polish, re-fit etc), irrespective of what they told you. There's a reason why it's around £250+VAT at mainstream bodyshops - it's because of the prep time taken for sanding and that excludes the time taken to remove the part from the car. That said, nothing wrong with a smart repair. Smart repairers can make some excellent quality repairs for a lot less than the full cost.
If the £105 plus vat is just to remove and replace then it's around 1.5 hrs labour so probably right. I thought at 1st you meant £105+VAT all in to respray - I knew that was optimistic. £465+VAT is a lot for a new part though!

It's always worth getting in well with your dealer. For minor repairs dealers use Smart repairers who come in once a week and charge dealer rates eg at my local Suzuki Dealer, I could get a wheel refurb for £35. Most small bodywork repairs will be £50-80 direct from a smart repairer or through the dealer at smart repairer rates rather than through their "bodyshop" arrangement. If you go through the bodyshop, the dealer will add a cut on top quoting you a repair price and then probably just paying the smart repairer to do it at their usual rate.

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Just had a quote from my local dealer for the replacements parts.



Labour charge is .7 of an hour to replace so it canít be a big job.

Replacement part is steep though @ 464 + VAT.
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I have my car booked for the 17th July with Shine through Smart Insurance. I’ll post pics before and after once its done.

Perfect. Let us know how the repair goes.
Shine phone me this morning saying they had a cancellation so they can repair mine today. It is being repaired right now. Il post pics of before and after later on.
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