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Buying advice new to Honda

So looking to buy my first Honda Civic.


Am in the market for a low miler, minimum Type s, maybe an R, or even the 2.2 cdti Type s.


But as per with any car after researching there are issues.


I have read the 2.2 cdti eats clutches and flywheels, which is putting me off the cdti, even though the torque would be good.


Am currently using a diesel vx line insignia, which runs well but like all diesels the DMF, EGR, etc etc, is in time always an issue.


Can anyone advise if the Honda does in fact suffer DMF failure early r is it the usual just folk moaning when **** goes wrong.


I will more likely be modding mines so any advice would be good, and also some buying advice.
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Basically petrol or diesel, yeah diesels are prone to DMF failure they all are but is the Honda bad for it.


How are the petrol S types clutch wise, also any big issues to watch in either am looking to buy in the next few days.


Have a Type R, a few Type S, which includes petrols and diesels, oh and a few BMWs to look at, but really want a Honda.
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The 2.2d are still very reliable engines. A good friend of mine has had his since new (2006 ex) with now 162k miles on or so with the original clutch and dmf.

The type r goes through a clutch roughly 70k miles or so but arent expensive to replace, iirc you can get a genuine clutch kit for around 200. Not too sure about the 1.8 type s. The petrols from Honda are pretty much bullet proof but will require valve clearance done every 70k or so miles for a flat rate of 100 from Honda. On 06 models look at the roof seal next to the front windscreen for rust.

Edit: The clutch on the 2.2 at that mileage does slip when cold.
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Cool, was just paranoid after reading the usual horror stories online, but of course most people only ever go on the forums with bad, or looking for advice when their car is goosed.

So I have the choice of all, type s, type r, petrol and diesel.

But here's a thing I also have the choice of black, red or blue, ahh dilemmas.

Are the petrols chain driven?

Can't wait to get one to be fair and that's after having top of the line Audis, BMWs, found the Audis crap.

First mod will be my private reg which is on retention, its a cracker had it on many cars but feel will be perfect for a civic, all will be revealed soon, trust me its a peach lol.
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Love my 2008 black 2.2 type S. Best, most reliable car I've ever had. Puts me in a good mood everytime.

Still on original clutch at nearly 150k miles.
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TBH its not the clutch on the 2.2 you really need to worry about but the Exhaust manifold. Yes the clutch can slip if you re map the ecu. The petrols are chain driven but they dont seem to be a topic of hot conversation tbh. Again as long as you use good quality oil and filter changes thsi will always prolong a chains life. Im using petronas 0/20 at the moment and including a K&N oil filter its less than 35 to do an oil and filter change myself.
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Thanks folks, how much are clutches and flywheels in the cdti fitted.

Am pretty handy worked on motors for many years.
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Had 3 diesels and 1 petrol. Clutch, for me, has slipped on every diesel. These range from 40k miles to 100k miles.

I just bought a diesel from a garage, the clutch was slipping, they replaced the clutch and DMF free. If you're worried, potentially buy one with a warranty?

In terms of petrol vs diesel, it's the diesel all day long. Other than clutch, never had any issues, including the manifold.

I would get a Type S if you're okay with a 3dr. However, a low mileage type S is hard to find, so I settled on a 5dr.
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For the mk8 I've owned a 1.8 and type r, never had a major problem with either. I prefer the R for the drama and I've also had 2 ep3's. The 1.8 is pretty much tuned to the max n/a. Cannot say much about the diesel as I've never owned one, they are popular to remap and you can get a good chunk of extra power out of them. R for me every time though.
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Thanks folks, how much are clutches and flywheels in the cdti fitted.

Am pretty handy worked on motors for many years.
Fitting is a good 4 hours, and tough job.

Clutch kit is 150
Flywheel about 500
You'll need some fluid too.... and lots of tools!
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Other points I have heard, is the top windscreen seal aka rust.
If a type r then they don't always start first time, just don't sink the clutch.
Rear clusters get waterlogged.
Take one up to 8300rpm redline, when vtec engages around 5600rpm they can sometimes be lumpy, walk away.
Because its probably not been properly serviced.
Check in a low gear whilst floored if smooth possible good one, make sure while in vtec it doesn't crunch, could end up needing a new gearbox.
But of course a lot of this applies to the petrol.
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All cars have their problems.

If you buy a later model, then a lot of previous issues have been ironed out. Only you know what you want, tbh.

Type R for speed

Diesel for economy.

1.8 for economy low annual mileage.
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I Like my 2008 black type S
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There is a type r buying guide on this forum somewhere, use the search to find it
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