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I have a 9th gen 1.8 SE in black and it really is a brill car to drive. I do however have one minor niggle. Sometimes, after inserting the key and turning it, the car doesn't start. The dashboard lights up, then nothing. Its almost expecting me to press the Start button that I had in my 8th gen.

I have mentioned it to my dealer who can only diagnose it immediately when its happened. Has anybody else encountered this?

If so what was the answer?
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Would it be an immobilser issue pal?
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Do you not have your foot fully on the clutch?
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Do you mean the engine turns over but fails to start (I have this sometimes) or the engine and starter motor are just dead with nothing happening?
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With my foot fully on the clutch, I turn the key. The dashboard lights up and thats it. The engine just doesnt try to start up.

To get the engine to fire up I have to take the key out of the ignition and start again. So far, it always starts up the second time. Its so bizarre!!
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I have the same issues with my 1.6 diesel.
It happens about once a week.
When it won't start, I just turn it off, leave the key in and wait a few seconds before trying again. It always starts on the second try for me too.

I guess the car misses the 8g start button as much as me.
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I've never had that problem with the 9g or any of my previous Hondas, unless the battery was approaching end of life. Even then the starter motor would only need 3 seconds to start the car (if the car was parked outside overnight in the cold). However I read somewhere it was a good idea to leave the key in the on position for a 2- 3 seconds to prime the fuel pump first, then start normally (this is a good idea for any make of car). By the way, next time you have the issue, see if there is a green immobiliser key flashing on the dash.
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Do you hear relays click and does your heater control screen go blank when it happens?
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It happened twice this week, especially on days when it was warm (20 degs +). The dashboard lights up and I havent noticed the immobiliser light flashing, but I will look out for it next time.

As i've mentioned before, removing the key then reinserting it, seems to do the trick.
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Take it back, Warranty is there for a reason
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Does it only happen in a particular location? Have you ever noticed your remote central locking fail to work first time?
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I have this intermittent fault with my 8th gen 08 diesel. Didn't notice green key light, but Vsa light wouldn't go out and start button would turn engine but not start. Remove key couple of times would reset it. Fault wouldnt reproduce on diagnostic check (sods law) few weeks ago. After getting worse dealer now found could be immobiliser not reading both keys. Waiting to hear what the damage will be.
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Update: It happened again this last week, so I took it into the local dealer. They mentioned trying 3 checks, one involved the starter motor. Whether the contacts were cleaned and tightened, I was assured that the problem should be resolved. Its been fine so far even after this weekends hot weather.

I really enjoy my Civic so I really do hope the problem has been resolved.
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Update: It happened again this last week, so I took it into the local dealer. They mentioned trying 3 checks, one involved the starter motor. Whether the contacts were cleaned and tightened, I was assured that the problem should be resolved. Its been fine so far even after this weekends hot weather.

I really enjoy my Civic so I really do hope the problem has been resolved.
Try a number of times with your foot on the clutch pedal in different positions (feather the position really lightly from 60% down to about 90%). You'll see that you have to get the pedal down nearly all the way before it will start. There is a region of pedal travel where it will seem like it is trying to start - but doesn't. Is this what you're experiencing?
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