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Remove rear light cluster (LED)

My driver side rear light cluster (facelift 9G) has been cracked, looking to remove and replace it. Has anyone removed one before?

I gather there are two bolts holding the unit in plus a clip or two?

Basically, I'm unsure how to remove the black plastic cover that hides the bolts.

Once bolts undone, I assume it's a case of pulling the cluster out the clips, straight back the way?

Any help is much appreciated.

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Have a look at the guide for rear indicator change - I think that should tell you how to remove the unit, to memory.

Out of interest, where / how did the crack occur?

As an aside, be careful when you source a replacement that it is also a facelift spec - there is a different LED Layout on the PFL.
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Page 521 of Owners Manual

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By coincidence I noticed my drivers side rear light cracking internally a couple of weeks ago. Its booked in to be replaced under warranty on Thursday. The outside of the light is perfect, no marks, but there is a crazing effect inside the light cluster looking from the side-- I only saw it 'cos the sun shone on it after I had washed the car, so I don't know how long its been like that. I can't get a photo to show it as the light has to be just right.
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Haltamer and Steve_m ...thanks very much, that will help me.


^ This is exactly what has happened to my light! So you are getting a warranty replacement? I shall take it to Honda today and request the same as my warranty is still valid.


The cracking is on the inside face, the outside of the lens is perfect and unbroken. It appears the plastic has failed and cracked from the inside, perhaps the recent frost caused it (I'm up in deepest, darkest Scotland!). It is the base/underside of the red plastic light cluster that has failed.

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Hi Kyle, yes I noticed the cracking three weeks ago and stopped of at the Honda dealers who took photographs and sent them off to Honda. I gave them a couple of weeks and phoned the dealers who put me on hold, then came back saying the new light had arrived,to be replaced under warranty, so I booked it in for this Thursday before they changed their mind. My warranty runs out on Jan30th next year so I wanted to get it done before then.
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Honda won't replace under warranty for me


The garage were helpful and submitted the claim with photos but their opinion was it was "impact damage" as the cracking had a "spider effect". I explained the outside of the lens was totally unmarked and sealed and it's the inside face of the lens that is cracked. Also, I'm unaware of any impact damage being caused. Honda responded and also said impact damage so not covered by warranty.


So the light is £160 supplied from Honda or £190 supplied/fitted by Honda... £30 labour for a 5 minute job is a pity but it means part is covered for a year.


BILL - was your cracking like a spider in appearance or more like parallel lines/stretch marks?
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Sounds like an expensive warranty. £30 for 12 months. Is it worth it?
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Almost sure it's not worth it but I just recently bought the car so, in the grand scheme of things, it's not much. The car is mint as well so I'm reluctant to go down the scrappy route.
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I was thinking of the fitting charge, not scrappy replacement.
Just thinking out loud, I wonder if it's any cheaper from Cox with the CivInfo discount?
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Yes, the fitting is a bit much. I called the garage there and was told 0.6 hours labour which I obviously queried as the removal is in the handbook and is a plastic cover, two bolts and one clip... 5-10 minutes maximum. I think they are actually charging me closer to 0.3 hours so not as much as the 0.6 they initially quoted.


Anyway, I have gone ahead and ordered the part and they fit it this week.


I got my genuine step garnishes well-priced and fitted them myself, so some you win, some you lose!


I'm a new member, do Cox offer member discounts usually?
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Yes. You need to register your email address with them.
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BILL - was your cracking like a spider in appearance or more like parallel lines/stretch marks?

Tried today but can't get any better pics. The cracking is on the top of the lens on the inside and is several parallel lines, almost as if you had run a wire brush on the lens. They covered an area about 2cm x 6cm ,some deeper than others, but none had gone all the way through to the outer surface.

Anyway, replaced today under warranty, so full marks to Honda
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Sounds like a different sort of "damage" or wear than my issue, pleased you got it sorted
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Update and caution...


The rear LED light cluster was replaced and it was a 30-40 minute job!


The light unit is wired-in down behind the inner plastic lining of the boot, some of the boot needed to be removed to detach the LED harness. So it's not a really quick and easy job and requires more work than to change the indicator bulb as shown in handbook.


Surprising as my CRZ had a rear LED light cluster and the harness just unplugged as soon as you removed the cluster, no need to take apart the boot linings/plastics.
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Shame you didn't supply any photos of the connectors and the extra panels that neeeed removing.
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Honda did the labour, I could only see roughly what was happening from the viewing window in the waiting room and a quick chat with the technician. I have the old light so can get images of the LED connection.
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Ah, right
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