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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 14th December 2018, 13:32 Thread Starter
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Which used Civic...narrowed down to 2!

I'm looking to take advantage of vertu Honda's 0% APR on used models.

I currently have an 08 plate 8th gen with 160k on the clock. I'd currently doing about 35k a year.

I would've liked another 2.2 but 13 plate ones are hard to come by so I've narrowed it down to:

13 plate ES , FSH, 45k on clock for 7700

15 plate SE plus (with sat nav HDD), FSH, 19k on clock for 10600

Both are 1.6 idtec.

I'm very temped by the 15 plate as the LED DRL's look very nice and tbe sat nav is handy, But is it worth the extra 3k considering all other things are equal?

Can't seem to get much info on the net but how do the Internal dimensions for the 9G differ to the 8G?

Am i right in assuming they both have the same 6 speaker setup? Which models had the extra subwoofer?

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ive just went from 2006 2.2 sport to 65 plate 1.6 sport
I paid almost the same price as the 15 plate one you quote with similar millage and its got extended warranty and service pack still running on the car

lovely car to drive still but the 1.6 has a lot less poke than the 2.2 and so far id say its not much better on fuel than my 2.2

I think the later 2015 cars had different head unit that is better than the earlier ones

I tried the sat nav out last night on a route I know well and I have to say I was disappointed need to look at the settings but my tom tom is far better than the 1 fitted
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Thanks for that,

My 2.2 has a 2nd stage remap sp I was looking to remap the 1.6 as well. It doesn't seem as popular an option to remap the 1.6 as there aren't many threads on it. Would be nice to know how the clutch holds up after a remap
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I much prefer the look of the facelift, but there are some benefits of each.
There were suspension tweaks on the FL Model which improve ride, though I haven't tried a PFL to compare.

There are a few differences on the interior; The PFL Has bolt covers on the seats, not sure about other parts.

Some prefer the earlier alpine headunit, but now that the Connect has had time to mature, I'd say it is perfectly good (With RC8 Update, dead stable)

As for @scaramanga I found that after RC8 + map updates, the Garmin vastly improved - It used to send me off motorway junctions only to rejoin the motorway because the route was .5cm shorter, but after updates it's stopped doing that, and I now use it for nearly all navigation. The traffic and other features work here, but I found them to be far more active when driving on the continent - All maps were fine across europe, for that point.
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I say don't bother and look for another late 2.2 iCTDi. The 1.6 is NEVER going to live up to it.
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How about trying to source a 13 plate 2.2 idtec?

There is another option, an accord, 11 plate, 49k, EX trim, automatic and 8500
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Reason I say avoid the iDTEC is because it has a DPF. More hassle and the later Civic is the same platform. The spaceship 8th gen still looks up to date to this day.
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the only thing I held back for with the 1.6 dtec was concern over dpf
eventually I gave in and went for it
I did back to back test drive with a 1.8 vtec and don't think id have been happy with the petrol
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Reason I say avoid the iDTEC is because it has a DPF. More hassle and the later Civic is the same platform. The spaceship 8th gen still looks up to date to this day.
I appreciate there may be some dpf issues with the 2.2 idtec but I do mainly motorway miles anyway so it shouldn't be massive issue

I've had my car for 5 odd years now and I've already replaced the clutch (twice) and got a 2nd hand gearbox 20k miles ago as mine packed In. I fear a major component failure is around the corner as its an 11 year old car with 160k on the clock
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And why did you replace the clutch twice?

Really? 160k? It's just run in mate! My 2.2 is on 171k miles now. I love the way it picks up on motorway when I toe it. Deceptively quick. It drives as good now as it did with 76k miles on it. I know for sure I wouldn't be happy with a something slower.
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And why did you replace the clutch twice?
First one time was due to a slipping clutch as got a SMF kit by TDI north which packed in around 2 years and 27k later so had to be replaced. Went back to OEM setup and it's just starting to slip a tad again if I floor it in 5th or 6th gear
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Oh dear. Try buzzing it to see if it'll rachet up, it's not going to dramatically fail. High torque remaps aren't a good idea on these iCTDi motors. I'd stay at 185bhp/295ftlbs on the standard clutch.
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SR 15 plate 8 speakers.
Leather seats Heated.
Folding mirrors.
Zero road tax.
Lumbar adjust seats.
Dimming rear view mirror.
Cruise control.
Speed limiter.
If motorway driving you should be able to get high 60's to low 70's mpg. Plus DPF gets enough heat to regen.
Mine regened this morning at 70 cruise as my mpg read out dropped to 50 mpg.


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Maybe I can help you having owned both 9TH GEN Civic in my opinion. The MK8 is unique and still feels special in its own way.

Benefits
Smoother ride over the harshest bumps.
The acceleration from 70-100mph it really does feel quicker surprisingly, perhaps weight has a factor?
Road tax is 0
Looks like a Type R without the spoiler.
LED Headlights look good.
SAT NAV, bluetooth, reverse camera sensors internet etc. (SE NAVI PLUS) model.
On Eco mode you can easily achieve 60MPG if you push on perhaps early 50's.
Responsive & better brakes.
Better paint quality.

Disadvantage
Performance is not enough to keep pace with rival engines the 1.6 is a slug on local roads.
Servicing it is much more difficult oil filter, and fuel filter at the bottom of the engine.
DPF Filter as with all modern diesels have to use the correct grade of oil 0w-30 C3 for the CIVIC (low ash).
Much less refined by that I mean the engine is much more noisier.
Looks of a Toyota Prius? it doesn't have the sporty looks in comparison to the mk8 TYPE S.
No 3 door option.
Doesn't inspire confidence with handling feels like a boat softer suspension setup but it does grip.

Its a good family car, reliable and cheap to run.
In terms of performance is just about ok, but the biggest let down to me is the engine noise its too loud when sat in the cabin which I guess the stop-start system prevents you listening to it at idle.
Would I buy another probably not I would opt for the Lexus IS300H next or even the Civic 1.5 Turbo if I had a better budget prices will come down.
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I say don't bother and look for another late 2.2 iCTDi. The 1.6 is NEVER going to live up to it.
That's a matter of opinion. I went from the 2.2 to 1.6 FL and yes initially the difference in power was noticeable but on the other hand, it isn't that often the inner boy racer comes out in me anyway and is still a civilised place to be as the 8G..
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My 1.6 FL is at 65k and no DPF issues at all to date.. My comment is probably going to be the kiss of death to it though
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Out of interest what sort of mileage are you doing? @ 65k guessing majority of it is motorway?
Or is it local stop start...
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Out of interest what sort of mileage are you doing? @ 65k guessing majority of it is motorway?
Or is it local stop start...
A mix of A Road and Dual Carriageway. Go down to Newcastle quite a bit too. Doing a car share now so my annual mileage will drop as I'll be saving over 600 mile per month.
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