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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 20th January 2019, 16:03 Thread Starter
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There are times when I've had some reservations about my 9G, then yesterday I went in a friend's Toyota Auris 1.4d - my God what an awful vehicle! Made my SR seem really upmarket, so I'm in love with it again

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Yes, remember sitting in a Suzuki on display- an incredible sea of plastic everywhere.

To be fair, the 9g SR's are (were) pretty much Honda's flagship and priced accordingly
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id agree the 9g may not be the quality of old Hondas
but there still better than most cars out there of similar age and class
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One of my neighbours had a 16 plate Qashqai and it was almost with the dealers as much as he had it. Constant electronic gremlins.

The muppet bought a replacement 68 plate Qashqai before Xmas and that's been at the dealers twice. First time it was with them 2 weeks having a replacement auto gearbox. He got it back last week and it was collected the next day on a loader because it wouldn't start.
He's still not got it back.
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I've never had any major complaints about quality; Everywhere worthwhile is soft touch and fairly well put together. I've not had any major troubles with rattles etc - I must say, having sat in a toyota prius months ago, I'm still having nightmares about how cheap and plasticy the construction was.
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had a colleague take me to get my 9g from the dealer - something like a 64plate 3series. was only in the 3series for 5-10mins but there was far less quality difference then i expected.
9g vastly better than the gf's 63plate fiesta.
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Only niggles I have so far are:

1. Cowling surrounding Rear View Mirror kept falling, fixed that with the double sided sticky pads you put registration plates on with.
2. There's a constant noise comes from the handle to the right of the drivers head, am going to remove and re-fit to see if that helps.
3. Two plastic fin things to the front underneath the bumper, really too low and scuff regularly, had to use a few trim bolts putting them back on.

But good things so far:

1. a more pleasant place to be than the 8G.
2. On over 66k miles and have not had to change a drop link, the 8G rattled like a beatch on my old 2.2 after 10k so no crash bang wallop yet.
3. Saving me a fortune on Diesel compared to 2.2 (I commute 64 mile per day so it makes a difference).

Will I go for the 10G after this? don't know, Jury is still out. I'll miss the Magic seats more than anything as my road cycle fits in perfectly with the front wheel off.

Oh! I car share with a guy with a 2016 Focus Titanium EcoBoom and it's noisy and the plastics look and feel cheep.
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2. There's a constant noise comes from the handle to the right of the drivers head, am going to remove and re-fit to see if that helps.

I'll miss the Magic seats more than anything as my road cycle fits in perfectly with the front wheel off.
Funny, I've got the same on my 8gen. Never heard anything like it. Like a termite chewing away occasionally. Can only hear it when going through a rough piece of road with the radio off. But it is persistent...

As for the magic seats, I learned to love them on my 2002 Jazz. Brilliant idea! Missed them on my coupé later on. When I learned the 10gen Civic wouldn't have them I thought Honda was shooting itself in the foot... but everybody around me said I was over reacting to a loss that had nearly no use. Well, I guess somebody out there also finds them useful.
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Will I go for the 10G after this? don't know, Jury is still out. I'll miss the Magic seats more than anything as my road cycle fits in perfectly with the front wheel off.
I've always thought it would be perfect for a bike, ironic considering the theme of the 10g real view test drive video is a cycling club!


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Thanks for all the replies to my post. I've had three Civics since 2004, and they have all been very reliable. My 2008 8G 2.2 had started with the usual clutch slip, and the power steering had started to become a bit unpredictable in cold weather.

Because of these two worrying faults I traded the car with 95k on it for my present 9G Twilight Blue 1.6idtec SR - 12 months old with 11k on the clock, and a ex Honda employee fleet vehicle. It's much less agricultural than the 2.2 (but I do miss the extra grunt!) and I absolutely love the spec, though my wife doesn't like the leather trim because it's cold in winter and burns like hell in summer.

Having a 4 year old grandson though - it's very practical.
My only real complaint is the poor rear suspension, but that is offset by the brilliant magic seats which are now gone in the 10G.
All in all, with the great mpg, big load capacity, and free road tax - I'm very happy. The trip in the Toyota Auris really brought it home to me how nice a car I own for the price.

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Then again, someone I was talking to had a Civic 9G SR purchased same time as mine. In the first six months of ownership it spent more time at the dealers. Glass roof came off to cure a rattle. Aircon failed with a Honda mechanic quote 'one in a million fault' owing to a pipe at the rear out of view coming disconnected. She's now ordered a Mercedes GLA. Honest john shows the problems logged with those, its a long long list.
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My only real complaint is the poor rear suspension
Out of intrest, How do you find the rear suspension compared to your 8G?

If you don't keep the rear beam loaded up through corners it can be a bit skippy on potholes, But there's little that can be done for that other than independant suspension (See 10G!)
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I do actually find the 9g more nervous and skittish than the 8g, but it's so much more refined otherwise. It's rarely that I drive it fully loaded, so it can get a bit irritating.

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I do actually find the 9g more nervous and skittish than the 8g, but it's so much more refined otherwise. It's rarely that I drive it fully loaded, so it can get a bit irritating.

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I thought that due to the panoramic roof and heavy 2.2 lump on my 8G made it wallow? I'm finding a big improvement with the 9G? In fact, it inspires me more to give it the beans on certain country roads when I'm in the car myself.
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I thought that due to the panoramic roof and heavy 2.2 lump on my 8G made it wallow? I'm finding a big improvement with the 9G? In fact, it inspires me more to give it the beans on certain country roads when I'm in the car myself.
It's a difficult one - the 9g is certainly more "pointy" than the 8g but seems to me to be more disturbed when cornering on uneven surfaces.

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I would say my main issue is also with instability on uneven surfaces, garages keep saying they can't find anything wrong so not sure if it's a real problem, my imagination or just the way the car is. Clutch also has it's moments of being juddery, but apart from those no real complains.
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I would say my main issue is also with instability on uneven surfaces, garages keep saying they can't find anything wrong so not sure if it's a real problem, my imagination or just the way the car is.
You'll probably find it's just the way the car is - The rear suspension is a torsion beam setup, which means the two wheels are joined by what is essentially a giant anti roll bar:- It is very compact, which affords the large boot space, but it does have negative handling characteristics, due to the two wheels being joined.

It serves as a giant anti roll bar in some ways; Meaning that if the OSR hits a pot hole, the shock will be transferred through to the NSR causing the back to skip; There are a few other similar "features" like limited camber adjustment, too.

On a car with independant rear suspension, if the OSR hits a pot hole, it'll deal with the forces on the OS Wheel on the OS - The NSR wheel can remain in contact with the road giving you grip and stability.

Have a read here, I'm sure you'll find it enthralling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twist-...ear_suspension
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