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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 22nd March 2012, 10:56 Thread Starter
 
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9g Civic frequently asked questions.

I have come accross a bulletin for the 9G Civic. It basically explains answers to common questions.

Hope this helps people with certain issues.
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Wind noise.

I need to post a PDF attachment about Civic wind noise but there is no attachment sign available when creating a message!

Am i being stupid.....
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Quick reply doesn't have it, the full editor does though..

Do you have a source for the service bulletins? I'd like to read more of those
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But you managed it with your first post
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I know!!

But I have noticed that further down the message page it says this

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Click on "Go Advanced" then "Manage Attachments" then all should be clearer...
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Seems odd you managing to post the first bulletin (much appreciated).
Hopefully you will be successful as the first was a good read!
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For some reason "manage attachemnts" is not there!!

Any way there is a bulletin realeased regarding wind noise on the 2012 Civic, I will just try to copy and paste.

Service Bulletin
Bulletin No
SM-08-006-00

Body
Model Model Code Year Model
CIVIC 5D FK1, FK2, FK3 12
Issue Date
18-05-12
Originator
Wind Noise From Door Mirror Area
Symptom
Wind noise emanating from the right or left
door mirror between 40 and 50mph.
Cause
Two concerns can potentially lead to wind
noise from the door mirror area.
Potential causes;
1. The Run channel sash foam has gaps, or is
missing.
2. Run channel sash bracket gap has
excessive clearance at the mirror fixing point.
Application to Production Line
Application to Production Line will be
confirmed at a later date.
Market Treatment
Repair on customer complaint only.
Repair Method
Run Channel sash foam gap or missing
(A).
PAGE 1 OF 3
1. Remove the door mirror as described in
MaRIS.
2. Remove all visible foam, be careful not to
damage painted surfaces, or trim.
3. Degrease the Run Channel sash and
bracket.
4. Apply a new piece of foam cut to the
dimensions shown below to area A.
4. Ensure that the foam covers both the run
channel sash and the mirror patch.
Use part number 06990-SA5-000 foam or
equivalent foam with a maximum thickness of
4mm.
Run channel sash bracket gap (B)
Area of concern is at the Mirror base (C)
shown below.
1. Remove the door mirror as decribed in
MaRIS.
2. Degrease the Run Channel sash and
bracket.
3. Apply a new piece of foam cut to the
dimensions shown below to area B.
4. Make sure to cut a hole so that the door
mirror stud passes through the patch.
CONTINUATION SHEET
Bulletin No
SM-08-006-00
PAGE 2 OF 3
Below shows the completed repair to the Run
channel sash and sash bracket with the foam
applied to both points A and B.
Re-fit door mirror as described in MARIS. Test
Drive the vehicle to ensure that the noise has
been eliminated.
Parts Information
<Part Number> <Part Name>
1 X 2m Roll
06990-SA5-000 EPT FOAM SEALER T3
1 Roll will repair approximately 50 vehicles.
Claim for the EPT Foam Sealer should be
claimed as an extra's cost.
Do not claim for the foam sealer by part
number.
Warranty Information
Application:
Normal Warranty

Causal Part:
72231-TV0-E01

NEWS Symptom Code:
04201

Operation No.(LON-NEWS Only):
LON Description FRT
820120 MIRROR, DOOR RIGHT - Rep
lace 0.7
820100 MIRROR, DOOR LEFT - Repl
ace 0.7
The EPT Foam seal should be claimed for as
an Extra's Cost at a Rate of 12.50 Euro per
repair (10.00).
You should use the Sealant option from the
drop down menu in NEWS claim.
Note: The allowable Extra's cost has been
increased to cover the additional FRT for
applying the foam.
CONTINUATION SHEET
Bulletin No
SM-08-006-00
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I can honestly say its not on all 9th Gens as i've recently made several London/Leeds/London trips at speeds varying from 30pmh upwards and not had a single issue. In fact, recently I was somewhere slightly above the 70mph area and a passenger commented on how quiet it was!
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I have no issues either, so on the bright side it should be fixable
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Has anyone had the wind noise fix carried out and if so, did it resolve the issue?
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Has anyone had the wind noise fix carried out and if so, did it resolve the issue?
Three unsuccessful attempts to rectify the wind noise issue.

The last attempt was on 17 May when the dealer fitted a sealant strip modification to the wing mirror mount. The Service Department described it as draught excluder material fitted between the triangular panel and the door, so it sounds very much like the material listed in the Service Bulletin. Unfortunately, it had no effect whatsoever. I have told the dealer, who are, as far as I am aware, still waiting for a solution from Honda.

However, the date on the Service Bulletin is the 18 May, so perhaps I should give them a gentle reminder.

In the Issues Issues Issues!!! thread, Kremmen suggested using a length of masking tape along the top edge of the window/rubber seal to see if it solves the problem. Then to remove a bit at a time until the area causing the wind noise is found. Ive tried this, but even with masking tape all around the drivers door window/rubber the wind noise remains.

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Interesting, that would indicate it's coming from somewhere else.

I've always found the best way to find the exact location of a rattle is to use a length of plastic hose as a sthethoscope.

The number of times I've thought a rattle is coming from one place and it turns out to be a totally different location.

The last rattle I diagnosed this way was what I thought was coming from inside the dash.
It turned out to be the black plastic housing behing the rear view mirror that shields the rain sensor.

Prior to that what I thought was coming from the passenger door mirror/tweeter area turned out to be something in the centre console!
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Interesting, I was also going to tape off an area to try, guess still worth a try as no doubt the garage won't resolve first time, and if like most, will have to spoon feed them to find a resolve!
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Wind noise

Does anybody knows if there is a solution available regarding the wind noise. I also have the wind noise issue. Went to the dealer. There was a part missing near the wing mirror. They repaired it, but the wind noise is stil the same.
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Does anybody knows if there is a solution available regarding the wind noise. I also have the wind noise issue. Went to the dealer. There was a part missing near the wing mirror. They repaired it, but the wind noise is stil the same.
Don't know, but I will be sending mine in to get this sorted as its driving me mad...
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The trouble with these problems is that unless you can pinpoint it then I don't think you're going to get a quick fix. The owner has more time than a dealer mechanic to diagnose the issue.

I know from experience that inside a car a noise can be far away from where you think it is. I thought I had a rattle coming from around the passenger side air vent / door tweeter area. ended up being something rattling round in the centre console !

If your sure it's definitely the drivers side then I think your going to have to mask up both doors including the complete physical door opening circles plus the complete glass surrounds, exterior door handles, and possibly the front windscreen surround and anywhere that could be letting in wind or causing wind resistance, then climb in the passenger side for the test drive.

One thing you could check quite easily is that both the windows are definitely closing fully and that the pinch sensor isn't too sensitive.
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Went to the dealer today regarding the wind noise issue. Just to figure out whats causing the noise. First we taped the triangle plastic in front of the mirror (not at the door). That didn't do a lot. Then taped the door and the vertical part of the window (behind the mirror). That seems to work. After that we removed all the tape except the vertical part on the window. Still ok. Removed all tape to verify, noise was back. After that taped the window and the noise levels where down.
To me it looks like tubulance, but not all civics share this issue. The dealer will contact Honda to share this info and see what they come up with.
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The car has been to the dealer today and the wind noise has been resolved as per the mod detailed in this thread...
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Excellent, wonder when it will be put into factory production ?
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