Yes, we do own both a 1.4 Jazz and a 1.8 Civic and they cannot be truly compared as they are totally different cars and aimed at very different Markets.
I think jameseh's comments are in many ways biased as he is comparing the Jazz to his Civic.
Both these cars have the same great space flexibility, as the Jazz has a less sloping back contour than the Civic, it can accomodate a 'Longer Load' - which I have recently experienced!
I can't agree with his comments about the Jazz steering when Parking - having said that, the Honda systems in both my cars are not as good as some other makers.
The Jazz's 1.4 Vtec Engine is a big improvement over the previous Jazz (Dsi) Engines, I will be able to comment more when more miles are on the clock as our previous Jazz seemed to really loosen up after about 25000 miles.
I don't agree that the engine noise is 'pretty loud' when cruising at 70mph, at least not in our car (above 75mph I would agree)! AND wind noise is acceptable too.
Insurance - always relative to Car grouping AND 'AGE', the Jazz is I think in Group 2 (maybe 3!) - just renewed ours this week £172, three named drivers (2xMature + 1x28 years)
jameseh, what does anyone expect when going over Speed Humps - either some absorbtivity or severe suspension damage? My Civic is certainly not as comfortable (due to it's harder suspension settings) over many Speed Humps in my area!
So would I personally choose a Jazz or the Civic?
Well, no contest IMHO, give me the Civic anyday - but the Jazz is a good car and should not be compared in Handling or Performance terms - it's not made to meet that sought of market!
So where is the Jazz Type R?
Yeah sorry I was very harsh about the Jazz I had to vent off some steam at work and this thread was just, here!
I'm not knocking the ride of the Jazz, it is really comfortable and soaks up broken tar brilliantly, but comparing it to the Clio and 206 its considered just a tad firmer (IIRC, the older version Jazz was even firmer)
Personally I found road and wind noise on the Jazz noisy as it matches my old 206 on motorways, and I considered that car quite a low benchmark to beat when it comes to refinement, so was let down when the Jazz was similar to this (then again the Civic isn't much far behind either!)
Just for your info RobS, I compared insurance between a 58reg Jazz 1.4 iVTEC and a 59reg Clio Dynamique 1.2TCE (the new engine that replaced the 1.4) anyone would expect the Clio to be more expensive to insure as its newer, has a turbo, and isn't exactly low spec.
To balance up my harsh little review I'll add up more things I like about the Jazz:
- easy door entry, seat belt being easy to reach and doors being nice and slim when getting out of tight parking spots
- great MPG, I manage around 44MPG when delivering!
- very quiet engine when idling, sometimes you can't even tell its on! (until the fan kicks in)
- power folding mirrors as standard, they fold quicker than the Civic!
- has a REAR WIPER
If you really want to buy a Jazz, get a 1.4, I can't imagine how underpowered the 1.2 will be.. can't comment on the diesels though.