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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 28th April 2008, 14:13 Thread Starter
 
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Work in progress! DLS audio upgrade.

Hi everybody!
I have just sent an order for some new speakers. And because im from Sweden, then why not swedish speakers Hope to recive them soon.

This is for the front system:
Reference MS-series MS6A (6,5") 2-way system.
Tweeter: UP1C, 28 mm (1,1") silk dome tweeter
Woofer size
: 16,5 cm (6,5")
Power handling capacity:
100 W RMS / 160 W max
Frequency range: 45 - 20.000 Hz
Crossover point (Hz):
4500 Hz
Sensitivity: 92 dB (1W/1m)
Outer diameter of woofer:
165 mm (6,5")
Magnet size
: 100 mm (3,94")
Mounting depth: 67 mm ( 2,64")
Crossover
: Filter box with 6/12 dB slope (LP/HP)
Mounting hole:
140 mm (5,5")
Impedance: 4 ohm

And this is for the back:
Performance series 426 (6,5") 2-way coaxial.
Tweeter: 20 mm (0,8") silk dome
Crossove: rBox filter with 6/12 dB slope (LP/HP)
Woofer size
: 16,5 cm (6,5")
Power handling capacity:
60 W RMS / 90 W max
Frequency range:
50 - 20.000 Hz
Sensitivity: 94 dB (1W/1m)
Outer diameter of woofer:
165 mm (6,5")
Magnet size
: 100 mm (4")
Mounting depth: 62 mm ( 2,44")
Mounting hole:
145 mm (5,7")
Impedance:
4 ohm

Let´s se of it works and how it sounds

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Speakers

Hey "sounds" good, that's going to keep you busy for a few hours, but worth it.
I couldn't believe the "quality" of the Honda speakers when I replaced mine, they made a big difference.

I also fitted some Dynamat mats in the doors and they made a big difference, not just to the speaker sound quality but they make the doors sound a lot more solid when open and closed too.

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I will follow this with interest. I looked at these myself earlier.

Are you going to be running these directly from the head unit?



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I will follow this with interest. I looked at these myself earlier.

Are you going to be running these directly from the head unit?
Yes i will try to run these directly from the HU, att first any way. Looking to install an amp and sub later so this is just an first step i hope.
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The arrival of the stuff.

So i picked up the stuff to day, cant wait to install them
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this install is looking interesting
good luck
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Update! 1.1

Ok so i decided to go all in. New cables are on the way and i hope it will do some god in the end

(Rear) New speaker rings installed, and the old speaker cables. Ok the speaker rings are plastic but it will hopefully do the jobb for the rear speakers any ho.
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(Rear) The new cables.
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(Rear) Cables installed.
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(Rear) The coaxial speaker fully installed.
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(Rear) This is where the cables came out.
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(Rear) And the side back on.
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All the cables will end upp in back connected to an amp. Hopefully this will do some difference, i feel i have started something that is a lot of work, and that i have many hours in front of me

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Update! 1.2

Ok time for som more pics, this time from the front doors.

(Front right side) Speaker ring installed and cable drawn.
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(Front right side) Cables drawn back under the floor matts/carpet.
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(Front right side) Cables installed on front speaker.
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(Front right side) Installed in door.
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(Front right side) Cables comes out back.
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(Front right side) Front speaker and tweeter finished.
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(Front left side) Left door speaker ring installed.
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(Front left side) Cables from left door should come out her some where.
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(Front left) Finished result. (For now)
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(Front right) Finished result. (For now)
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Update! 1.3

Ok so i just orderd a new amplifier.

DLS Performance CA-51

Number of channels: 5
Amplifier class: AB
Output power in 4 ohm: 4 x 50 W
Output power in 2 ohm: 4 x 80 W
Mono bridge mode 4 ohm: 2 x 150 W
Mono sub channel 4 ohm
: 170 W
Mono sub channel 2 ohm: 225 W
Damping factor: > 100
S/N ratio, A-weighted:
> 100 dB
Frequency range
: 10 Hz - 35 kHz
Input sensitivity: 0,25 - 5 V
Input impedance: > 10 kohm
Input impedance, high level:
100 ohm
Filters channel A & B: HP: 15-500 Hz. LP: 50-500 Hz / 05 - 5 kHz (x10)
Filters channel C & D
: HP: 15-500 Hz / 150 Hz - 5 kHz (x10).
Filters channel E: LP: 60 - 120 Hz + subsonic 25 Hz
High level input with auto start: 1
Power consumption (idle): 1 A
Power consumption (max)
: 90 A
Rec. power cable:
Minimum 4AWG / 21 mm2
Fuses: 3 x 30 A
Dimension (W x D x H)
: 70 x 437 x 268 mm / 2,92 x 17,2 x 10,55 "
Weight: 5 kg / 11 lb

I hope this will do the job

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Very nice!
Wise of you to go for an amp right away, imo. If it is the sound quality that matters, it will be worthwhile, trust me.
I'm looking forward to see the final result on the upgrade, and hear your impressions/opinions of the improved sound quality
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Ok so i just orderd a new amplifier.
I think that is wise of you .
I did a similar install: First I replaced the four front speakers with a Polk DB-6501 system, run by the original HU.
That didn't work at all - the HU amp quality matches the quality of the original speakers so in my ears the sound continued to be rubbish. It simply didn't manage to run the new speakers properly.
Then I installed a Rockford Fosgate amp in the lower boot - and everything got OK .
I don't have any sub (yet...) I want sound quality, not quantity.
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I suggest we wait until the work is finished, and then decide .
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very nice RogS.

I'm planning to install the same speakers as you. Have you got any problems to fit the tweeters or the 6'5" in the original hole? (in the photos seems no..so I think that they fit perfectly on the original)

How they it sounds? what kind of music you put on them?

thanks you and sorry for my english.
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Hello.
The tweeters was no problem to fit, the old ones came right of. The 6,5 ones was a little more difficult. You will need to have speaker rings at least 1 cm or the speaker will touch the window. And aboute how it sound? Sorry i cant help you there, i have no amp and no sound right now.

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very nice RogS.

I'm planning to install the same speakers as you. Have you got any problems to fit the tweeters or the 6'5" in the original hole? (in the photos seems no..so I think that they fit perfectly on the original)

How they it sounds? what kind of music you put on them?

thanks you and sorry for my english.
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ok thanks you very much RogS.
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where did you order the kit from?
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Hello.
I orderd it from blekingebilradio.se
Very nice and fast respons from them, i am waiting for my amp from them as well. Hope to have it this week. I also heard good about Nårdik (nardik.se)

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I orderd it from blekingebilradio.se
Very nice and fast respons from them, i am waiting for my amp from them as well. Hope to have it this week. I also heard good about Nårdik (nardik.se)

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Thanks for the info. It looks great but I dont like the tweeter grills, can the originals be used?
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No, they are one with the original tweeters. But of course u can always modify

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