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Hi guys n gals does anybody have the know on knowledge about mot passing this I got told it needs red reflection in the lense other people say no long as the light comes on and it states what it's for e.g. Indicator, brake, tail it doesn't matter im in the middle of retro fitting rear clusters to my mk8.

And saw this on you tube..? Any thoughts would be appreciated not negative ones (always stay positive good thing in life)


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You do need red reflectors on the rear. They don't need to be part of the main light cluster, they can be fitted elsewhere. Just stick a pair on each side of the numberplate or something
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You do need red reflectors on the rear. They don't need to be part of the main light cluster, they can be fitted elsewhere. Just stick a pair on each side of the numberplate or something
Or I can leave the centre cluster standard as it is normal mk8's and take the red reflection panel out of the cluster! The pcb will be black just uming, arhing

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Yep checked that out yeh Im going that path but more leds really without a chrome reflector either.
black pcb with two operating functions brake, tail light but more leds and wider very good build thread though I must say. It was done sometime ago that wasn't it.
And even though these civics are getting popular the aftermarket haven't made them but will do a crappy astra in leds lol. No offence if someone has a astra

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My apologies, I had a senior moment yesterday...

You don't need reflectors in the lights at all - the Civic has reflectors on the lower bumper panel. These are all you need to be legal
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Brilliant tidy..

Reet about the front lenses seen so many retro fits but no ones actually saying what type they used 2.5 or 3inch also will the mot station be able to align them up. 'Want to jump into this project both feet first not in with my head' does anyone have knowledge of this I'm not doing it to make profit or get work I'm happy in work and have no time to make other people lights but do have time to do build notes for everyone to try this them self's

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If you get this up and running I would.be interesed in a pair
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Hi guys n gals does anybody have the know on knowledge about mot passing this I got told it needs red reflection in the lense other people say no long as the light comes on and it states what it's for e.g. Indicator, brake, tail it doesn't matter im in the middle of retro fitting rear clusters to my mk8.

And saw this on you tube..? Any thoughts would be appreciated not negative ones (always stay positive good thing in life)


The rear lights for position and brake need to show red. You can have white bulbs as long as the lens is red.
I have 2 white LEDs in the tailgate & a white LED in the fog light but a red LED rear/brake light bulb in my CTR. The indicator bulb has to be amber/orange unless you have changed the lens from clear to orange. The only white light you can show to rear is the reversing light and you do need the red reflector that is fitted in the lower part of the bumper.
For the MOT if the light fitting is there is has to work unless you completely rip out the wiring.
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Yep I'll be keeping the red lense in now and the board I was going to make yep Im not making a board now sorry guys explained it to my work colleague who designs the boards where I work.
And said what I needed to make it happen he said itll cost about $45-60 for 4 boards to be made I said 'nah forget that lol'
so now I'm making led tape with 5054 cool white cree chip that works nicely at 12vdc.
but need to find out the lumans of the brake light, tail light as they'll both be in there e.g. Tail light 60% brightness and brake light 100% brightness.
So I'm now drawing out a piece of card get it designed in coral draw or cad then either get a metal heatsink laser cut or cut it out by hand, bend it slightly as there is a slight curve and bend in the manufacturing of the civic rear lights. Just incase the leds get hot which I hope they don't there only 12vdc.
Then I'll make a piggy back board to work in the oem connection on the harness out of made pcb really easy part that.

Then to tackle the side lights tail, brake, indicator which that's going led, indicator chaser..

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Does anyone know which pins power which part of the bulb I'm doing a led conversion wrote it down I was confused lol

I'm after.

stop light (brake)
Tail light (night light)

Which pins power which pictures below


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Found the correct orientation with a work colleague and multi meter ready for correct wiring of the leds.

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that brings back sweet memories... I couldn't find the diagram I made at the time... otherwise I'd've shared it.
Keep up the good work.
My only advice would be to use bigger and brighter leds as, if they're too small (like in the cheap led stripes online), they'll look aftermarket and IMHO the result won't be as good.
I saw some pics on a forum of a white Civic in a bodyshop in Russia before starting my project and it had those cheap little leds... the owner even blacked out the taillights with some film or spray and the brightness was clearly not sufficient.
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Yeh am not blacking it out no way keeping the red reflection in there got these to work with cutting and brightness will be picked up when I change the resistor up and down for brake, tail light values

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that brings back sweet memories... I couldn't find the diagram I made at the time... otherwise I'd've shared it.
Keep up the good work.
My only advice would be to use bigger and brighter leds as, if they're too small (like in the cheap led stripes online), they'll look aftermarket and IMHO the result won't be as good.
I saw some pics on a forum of a white Civic in a bodyshop in Russia before starting my project and it had those cheap little leds... the owner even blacked out the taillights with some film or spray and the brightness was clearly not sufficient.
Don't want to get any fater than this package of led tbh reasons.
1.Get far far to hot
2. Melt the original housing
3. Heat creates moisture, moisture kills leds.
4. If wiring isn't big enough won't light up to the maximum point of light.

Plus side ill by spray acrylicing it when all done to block any possible moisture ingress

ill be running them in on my works work bench to 'burn them in' to spot any faults over time 'dry joints' which I don't want to be splitting the rear cluster in about 1months time which would be bloody annoying tbh

They won't run too much as you have a limit on your fuse too..

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Ok, mate. Looking forward to the result!
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The led tape got it hooked upto works Thurlbys christ not bad also did a photo metric reading too



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Ok, mate. Looking forward to the result!
Yeh might have to design a metal heat sink gets a little warm like

And that's just 1strip going to have 8 in there might have to rejig stuff around so the heat dissapasion is equal and factor looks good there mentally bright

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Looks brilliant! Can't wait to see how it turns out
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As above, Looks great.

Nobody's going to miss you reversing!

Are you going to leave the LEDs as is, or add a diffuser? I'd be tempted to add a diffusing coat - Not sure why high mount brake lights tend to have multiple individual sources without a diffuser; IMO It would look much nicer and there is still multiple sources - Just behind a diffuser. A slightly more powerful LED would make up for any lost output, and it would look very futuristic.
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