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Thought I’d start a Mod thread for my car as it seems to be escalating.
All comments, suggetsions and advice appreciated.

I bought the car off Honda (Cannock) back in October 2017, was completely standard and had been through the Honda Approved Standard program so had had a lot of work on it, it had 62,000 on the clock with Full Service History and came with a Honda 12 Month warranty.
Honda had fitted a new clutch, 4 x new tyres 1 x shock that was leaking and replaced new door cards, plus more and a full service. Car has been fully valeted and has Diamonbright Nano coat applied (which I actually rate).
We paid a bit over the odds for it, but as the work had been done and it was in almost immaculate condition and come with 12 months’ warranty and full service history I decided to go with it.
The plan was to keep it standard for 12 months and possibly leave it standard, but after joining Civinfo, the temptation became too much

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Excarlink
LED - Full Interior bulb kit
LED RED footwell lights
LED Side Light Bulbs - 15W (3x5W) W5W 501 T10
LED UPGRADE 14W 2835SMD T15 W16W LED WHITE REVERSE LIGHT BULBS
LED AMBER INDICATOR LIGHT BULBS50W T12 7440 HIGH POWER CREE XPE
LED Stop/Tail Light Bulbs - 50w T20 7443 CREE XBD LED RED
LED RED Rear LIGHT BULBS - 50W W5W W16W 501 T10 T15 HIGH POWER CREE XBD
LED Headlight Bulbs - NIGHTEYE Automotive - H7 72w 9000LM/Set 6500K Cool White (36w/450LM EACH)
LED DRL switchback indicators
Maxton Design - Full Splitter Kit
Freaky Parts - 17mm wheel spacers front and back.
Mugen Quickshifter
K-Tuned - Billet Shifter Bushes
Gruppe M - CAI
Thermal Throttle Body Gasket
Skunk2 Thermal intake gasket
Ramair Silicone Intake pipe
FlashPro Tune by Tdi-North = 219.2 BHP - Flatfoot shifting and Launch Control.

Next on the list

Balance shaft Delete Oil Pump Kit.
Milltek Exhaust (need it to be quiet).
RRC Inlet manifold to help the torque peak power stay longer up top.
Possibly go 15mm lower of Eibach.
Possibly! Possibly further down the road Supercharge it. In which case, bigger brakes and LSD

Cheers
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Your car looks very tidy and smart
Cheers @Farqui , I was lucky when I found it, as it is a very good clean car. Drives very nicely now Paul at Tdi has had a tweak
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Definitely looks a clean one! That's still proper Milano!


How do you rate the mugen shifter? I've just removed my cheapy MJC bolt on one, as it was making it feel notchy. Also what do TDi charge for the Flashpro tune?
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Definitely looks a clean one! That's still proper Milano!


How do you rate the mugen shifter? I've just removed my cheapy MJC bolt on one, as it was making it feel notchy. Also what do TDi charge for the Flashpro tune?
Thanks @Danith

The Mugen quick shifter is really just a shorter gear stick so reduced travel which makes it quicker, but it is very smooth and very positive. Feels a firmer change and less slop in the lever. Still out on whether it is worth the money but nice to have. The Tegiwa version has a shorter lever and longer ball joint part which replicates the eBay jobby but machined and not a bolt on bit. Musgrove has had both and recommended the Mugen.

Tdi-North charged £350 for the initial Tune and with the car being stock apart from Gruppe M intake it has made a real difference to how it drives. Better low down drivability, V-Tech at 3.5 but not always in unless you want it based on throttle position, also throttle response is better. I would say it has made a big positive difference to the car and the MPG seems to be better now I've calmed down lol I would recommend it on any stage of car. I also had flatfoot shifting and launch control enabled which are good little things to play with.
Any tuning required after this for added mods will only be charged for the time take to make the adjustment and not the £350 again.
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Oh cool so only 350 all in? Thought thr flashpro unit was 550 or so then another X amount for mapping
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The Mugen quick shifter is really just a shorter gear stick so reduced travel which makes it quicker, but it is very smooth and very positive. Feels a firmer change and less slop in the lever. Still out on whether it is worth the money but nice to have. The Tegiwa version has a shorter lever and longer ball joint part which replicates the eBay jobby but machined and not a bolt on bit. Musgrove has had both and recommended the Mugen.

Tdi-North charged £350 for the initial Tune and with the car being stock apart from Gruppe M intake it has made a real difference to how it drives. Better low down drivability, V-Tech at 3.5 but not always in unless you want it based on throttle position, also throttle response is better. I would say it has made a big positive difference to the car and the MPG seems to be better now I've calmed down lol I would recommend it on any stage of car. I also had flatfoot shifting and launch control enabled which are good little things to play with.
Any tuning required after this for added mods will only be charged for the time take to make the adjustment and not the £350 again.
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Oh cool so only 350 all in? Thought thr flashpro unit was 550 or so then another X amount for mapping
Argh, £350 for Tdi to tune it but you have to provide the handata Flashpro Box which I got off ebay for £350 so looking at it that way £650 for the first tune, which, yeah!
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Yay, there's my old gruppe m
Car looks sweet mate
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Yay, there's my old gruppe m
Car looks sweet mate
Thanks @flashy . Don't worry, the sausage may live yet
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Had short shifter, mugen, tegiwa then mugen again. The throw isn't as short in the mugen but when you go to another version you REALLY notice how slick the mugen is.

Looks like a cracker mate! After fitting a cat on the Teg I'd say it's spot on noise-wise, even better if you did the same with a milltek res and a 400 cell cat
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Had short shifter, mugen, tegiwa then mugen again. The throw isn't as short in the mugen but when you go to another version you REALLY notice how slick the mugen is.

Looks like a cracker mate! After fitting a cat on the Teg I'd say it's spot on noise-wise, even better if you did the same with a milltek res and a 400 cell cat
Thanks @musegroove , glad to see youíre happy with the cat fitted. Paul suggested get a Milltek and then probably later on go 4-2-1 with 400 cat. Just wondering if I have a resonated Mill will there be room to weld in a cat near to the manifold or will the b-pipe resonator be in the way of where you want the cat?
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Had short shifter, mugen, tegiwa then mugen again. The throw isn't as short in the mugen but when you go to another version you REALLY notice how slick the mugen is.

Looks like a cracker mate! After fitting a cat on the Teg I'd say it's spot on noise-wise, even better if you did the same with a milltek res and a 400 cell cat
So you recommend the mugen shifter for everyday mate? What are they worth second hand?
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Here was my plan to stick one on the milltek, mine was non res but the resonator wouldn't be in the way. Green for cat placement and red where a resonator would be.

Oh, sausage build pic too
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Here was my plan to stick one on the milltek, mine was non res but the resonator wouldn't be in the way. Green for cat placement and red where a resonator would be.

Oh, sausage build pic too
Lol at the sausage build, hopefully that will not be the most technical Mod in this thread

So I can have a 4-2-1 with welded in cat on a resonated system, nice one.

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Here was my plan to stick one on the milltek, mine was non res but the resonator wouldn't be in the way. Green for cat placement and red where a resonator would be.

Oh, sausage build pic too
Oh, and this weekend I’m going to try and wrap the inside of the bonnet for a smoother finish than the duct tape and decide if I’m refitting the sound proofing or sausage

For those thinking, what the heck. The sausage was a integral part of @flashy ‘s Gruppe M install, it is used to seal the side of the bonnet panel where it should match up to the cut sound proofing which pressurises the ram air channel to the air box if you do not refit the sound proofing.

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Here it is plus sausage, minus sound deadening

This shows the sausage purpose.
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Thanks @musegroove , glad to see youíre happy with the cat fitted. Paul suggested get a Milltek and then probably later on go 4-2-1 with 400 cat. Just wondering if I have a resonated Mill will there be room to weld in a cat near to the manifold or will the b-pipe resonator be in the way of where you want the cat?
I put both my previous cats under the driver's door.
The Teg has a silencer there which I preferred to keep as I want to run this cat 24/7 instead of just MOT time so opted to risk it and fit immediately after the manifold.

Thankfully it fits perfect, doesn't knock or scrape speed bumps and being right after the manifold should be more efficient too Always wondered if one would fit there all the way back since I had my milltek.

If you're after near stock volume then two silencers and a 400 cell should be reet, the farty / trumpet sound the Teg made in vtec has gone now and actually sounds good

@Danith perfect for daily and track IMHO smooth shifts everytime with zero misshifts (well first one in 12 months was at Anglesey with silvercider ) £120-130 used, can be imported for £150-175 depending on luck of the duty draw.
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Lol at the sausage build, hopefully that will not be the most technical Mod in this thread

So I can have a 4-2-1 with welded in cat on a resonated system, nice one.

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I'll try and get a pic tomorrow when I'm fitting the new crush gasket... again. But in short yes, that's what I run now, only difference is mine's single exit.
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I'll try and get a pic tomorrow when I'm fitting the new crush gasket... again. But in short yes, that's what I run now, only difference is mine's single exit.
Thanks mate, manifold and system makes sense and if I can keep it from being loud than that's great.
Don't suppose you know roughly how much it would be to have a custom full system made do you?

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Full stainless with dual exit you're likely looking about £500-650 depending on quality, a backstreet place may do £400ish but depends on material quality etc.
Cat is £90-110 depending on cells.

For custom job I'll be looking at solid fabs as Alan's quality is amazing.
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