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14th March 2018 12:45
Trev27 EXCELLENT JOB
New front speakers it is for me now
28th September 2014 13:16
SilverCider Just a little update on the ventures in my car, and one that some of you may want to have a go at yourselves!

I finally got around to applying some sound deadening material in the rear of the car, starting with the under floor compartment in the boot. I didn't want to add loads of mass to the car as there is plenty in already. Honda already put some bitumen like pads down in key places so I decided to place my material directly on theirs to make use of their worked theory! I must have only used 2 sheets of Silentcoat in this area in total.

I didn't want to go through removing all the trim in the rear to get to the sides of the boot so stopped there. Instead I got in behind the rear speakers to apply some well needed material there.

I didn't take any pictures unfortunately though I still used the material sparingly, 5 sheets in total (around 1 kg added).

One unexpected outcome of this brief application is the huge reduction in tyre roar coming from the back and a solid sounding ride over rough, potholed roads. I thought I'd gone deaf at first but it really was that drastic! I also noticed how much quieter my Milltek non-res was from inside the car at cold idle, win-win!
4th July 2014 12:17
SilverCider Oh joy, it seems I need to get behind the dash another time! I seem to have forgotten to plug the hazard switch back in

On that note it might make me fit the microphone for hands-free. I didn't consider using it at first but seeing as though I've got to take it apart again I might as well make do it for more than just plugging one cable in!
2nd July 2014 01:09
CYPER
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Originally Posted by SilverCider View Post
I will get around to comparing them on photo soon, I've had a busy week! I've not been able to charge off the usb unfortunately but whilst in the process of having the interior stripped you could easily connect a powered usb socket to the cig lighter.

One thing definitely worth doing is acquiring a hifi setup microphone and letting it work it's magic with the auto eq. It takes so much hassle out of manually working the eq and it still gives you the option of running flat/vocal/natural/powerful/super bass on top of the eq response it sets for your particular environment.

Since I have aftermarket speakers up front and still on standards at the rear, I have decided to set them as subwoofers for rear bass fill. I used to have them faded out entirely as they didn't balance well being easier drive (louder mid-midbass). It is really surprising how much additional thump they give to the mix That is how I'll leave it until I bother with any amping/sub or otherwise I think!
I decided to get the newest Xcarlink module with the built in bluetooth and charging option instead. Double DIN was an option, but at the end couldn't justify spending 500 just for charging and streaming online radio.
1st July 2014 19:29
SilverCider
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Originally Posted by CYPER View Post
Would you say the connects2 facia is a good copy of the original? Is the texture a lot different on the front?

Can you post some high-res photos of both to compare the looks?

Btw does that HU support USB charging by any chance?

Thank you.
I will get around to comparing them on photo soon, I've had a busy week! I've not been able to charge off the usb unfortunately but whilst in the process of having the interior stripped you could easily connect a powered usb socket to the cig lighter.

One thing definitely worth doing is acquiring a hifi setup microphone and letting it work it's magic with the auto eq. It takes so much hassle out of manually working the eq and it still gives you the option of running flat/vocal/natural/powerful/super bass on top of the eq response it sets for your particular environment.

Since I have aftermarket speakers up front and still on standards at the rear, I have decided to set them as subwoofers for rear bass fill. I used to have them faded out entirely as they didn't balance well being easier drive (louder mid-midbass). It is really surprising how much additional thump they give to the mix That is how I'll leave it until I bother with any amping/sub or otherwise I think!
26th June 2014 19:02
SilverCider
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Originally Posted by CYPER View Post
Would you say the connects2 facia is a good copy of the original? Is the texture a lot different on the front?

Can you post some high-res photos of both to compare the looks?

Btw does that HU support USB charging by any chance?

Thank you.
I think it is worth the money on quality, yes it could be a better match but the oem unit wasn't exact so I'm not fussed.





I'll get some more up soon as well as an obligatory reminder when fitting it

Sent from my Xperia Z
26th June 2014 18:59
CYPER Would you say the connects2 facia is a good copy of the original? Is the texture a lot different on the front?

Can you post some high-res photos of both to compare the looks?

Btw does that HU support USB charging by any chance?

Thank you.
26th June 2014 18:38
SilverCider



In progress as I type.

Found a neat shelf at the back to hide some cables and the rds aerial unit for the head. Powered it up to check the wheel functionality and the unit before I finish and all is well! Some serious cable tidying to be done!

Sent from my Xperia Z
26th June 2014 16:12
SilverCider
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Originally Posted by CYPER View Post
Hi, where did you get the unit from and how much?
Also is this the original fascia? Is HondaBitz the cheapest place to get it?

I am trying to convince myself that it is worth spending 600 for such a unit when in fact all I need is the XCarLink for Bluetooth and USB charging.

Do you think I will get some of the investment back when I sell the car? It's a 5 door Civic 58 reg, so if I were to sell it in 3-4 years time would the 2DIN unit increase the price by any margin?
The head unit was from eBay, got it delivered for 380. I've got the connects2 facia from hondabitz

As posted above id take the new unit with you when you sell on, you could sell out separately to gain more.

Sent from my Xperia Z
26th June 2014 12:50
yasuraka
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Originally Posted by CYPER View Post
Hi, where did you get the unit from and how much?
Also is this the original fascia? Is HondaBitz the cheapest place to get it?

I am trying to convince myself that it is worth spending 600 for such a unit when in fact all I need is the XCarLink for Bluetooth and USB charging.

Do you think I will get some of the investment back when I sell the car? It's a 5 door Civic 58 reg, so if I were to sell it in 3-4 years time would the 2DIN unit increase the price by any margin?
I was told when I traded in my Type S with the very same unit as OP that it would add no value. Was told that surprisingly a lot of people actually prefer stock set up when buying their car and can then change if needed/wanted. I wasn't about to argue as I wanted the HU for my next car anyway.

It really is a good unit you have installed there mate, my only reason for change was for iPhone connectivity without a faff of extra boxes. The lack of HDMI in the unit is probably the only hinderance in my eyes. Please post up the sound difference with your new speakers before amping them! Really interested in changing my speakers but I dont want to install an amp.
26th June 2014 12:05
CYPER
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Originally Posted by SilverCider View Post
I haven't, but it may become a thing later down the line. Just offering it up to the fascia to set the correct offset. I think I will wait for more daylight hours before having a crack at it

Sent from my Xperia Z
Hi, where did you get the unit from and how much?
Also is this the original fascia? Is HondaBitz the cheapest place to get it?

I am trying to convince myself that it is worth spending 600 for such a unit when in fact all I need is the XCarLink for Bluetooth and USB charging.

Do you think I will get some of the investment back when I sell the car? It's a 5 door Civic 58 reg, so if I were to sell it in 3-4 years time would the 2DIN unit increase the price by any margin?
25th June 2014 19:25
SilverCider I haven't, but it may become a thing later down the line. Just offering it up to the fascia to set the correct offset. I think I will wait for more daylight hours before having a crack at it

Sent from my Xperia Z
25th June 2014 19:14
wardy2602 Dead easy to installed mate and will make a mahoosive difference when fitted, have you bought a rear camera to fit at the same time, wouldn't be without mine now

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25th June 2014 17:37
SilverCider

Toys have arrived and I've got the rest of the week off... I wonder if I'll still end up trying tonight

Sent from my Xperia Z
20th June 2014 15:56
SilverCider I've decided to bite the bullet and complete my install with a shiny double din unit. I've only placed an order on the fascia kit from Hondabitz as I'm still trying to decide which unit to go for! I'm torn between two Pioneer units: AVH-X8500BT or the AVIC-F940BT, both of which I can get for a similar price (sat nav is used). What opinions do you guys have?

Edit: I put a cheeky offer in for the F940BT on ebay and it was accepted, so I'm getting a sat nav unit anyway. It should be a little easier explaining the cost to the other half at least
4th April 2014 19:31
SilverCider
Update! Part 2

Just a nod to say that I got the other door done, all in daylight this time. As always the second door was much quicker as knew exactly what I wanted to do and I wasn't soiling myself at the prospect of doing it wrong

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Again, quick shot of the mutilated weather seal from my previous tinkering.

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I was much more selective with my sound deadening placement this time around. Working my way around each aluminium sheet, sealing up the edges then playing some music to deduce where else it was needed.

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I ran into the same issue with the handle mount. The scratches show where I've tried dragging it into position with the door card back on. I can't figure out how they've both dropped back. On this door I even layered up sound deadening sheet to space it out but this didn't affect it much. If I can be bothered at a later date I may have a closer look at any possible cavities I've filled that the door card used to occupy.

The difference this had made to the audio quality in the car is outstanding. The bass is really crisp, to the point that I am further delayed purchasing a new headunit! Obviously I'm still missing out on connectivity options but the increase in sound quality is arguably a bigger bang per buck so to speak.

All in all, this update has cost me in the region of 40. All in so far, including the speakers that I already owned: ~150. I'm extremely happy with the results and I think it has me set up nicely for the time I get a new headunit

Dan
2nd April 2014 18:59
SilverCider
Update!

Good evening all,

I have started another step in my venture to increase the quality of the audio in the car.

I've always wanted to have a go at sealing the car doors, and by sealing I mean isolating the inside volume of the cabin from the inside of the door and hence outside. I didn't want to seal the door from the outside since it leaves the question of where will the water go! Besides, isolating the front of the speaker from the rear is the key objective to drive pressure waves more effectively. Without further ado, here is what I've done:

I decided that I wanted to remove the flappy plastic weather sheet and apply a stiffer material such as aluminium sheet over the resulting holes. So I did just that.

Attachment 99502

My weather sheet was looking wounded from my previous chop, but that doesn't matter any more.

Attachment 99504

I purchased some aluminium sheet from eBay for around 12. Just one sheet of 1000 x 500 x 0.5 is what foresaw to be adequate...

Attachment 99503

I got to work removing the weather shield and got to play with that wonderful black goo that Honda like to use. Thankfully I have plenty of nitrile gloves to prevent it sticking to me. I also found that using a plastic mixing spoon (from the kitchen ) to scrape some of it off was ok.

Attachment 99505

I used some cardboard to attempt to profile the holes I was about to cover as a template for cutting the aluminium. At only 0.5 mm thick a pair of hardy scissors or tin snips worked a treat cutting through it. I had the wiring and handle/lock cabling to consider so decided to leave a strip gap where necessary; to be covered by damping material to finish the seal. After a tiresome attempt at directly screwing in a self-tapping screw I also decided that I would make some pilot holes with the drill to save time and effort. I found that I didn't need to go crazy with these since the damping material would act as both gluing and sealing around the edges.

Attachment 99506

The second hole with the window motor was a little more challenging since said motor isn't flush with the inner panel, it comes inwards so the aluminium sheet didn't quite sit flush all round. But not to worry as plenty of silent coat covered that up.

I only just remembered to unscrew the inside door mount screws prior to applying damping material... These were useful for maintaining the sheet without further self-tapping screws though.

Attachment 99507

I started this door after tea on Tuesday, so around 6. This meant that I did not have much daylight left so I left it as is, around 8. A bit more damping material could be used, covering smaller holes around the door and on the aluminium sheet, but that can wait until I crack on with the other door - giving myself a bit longer too.

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An issue I did run into at the end was misalignment of the inside door handle. I need to push the mount onto the damping material a bit more to offer up the screw hole to the door card, but a couple of days without it wont harm me

Verdict on the sound so far: Definite improvement! I suppose it helps that I've only done one side for a comparison's sake as I can play with the balance on the head unit to check. The sealed side has a noticeable increase in mid-bass and bass output, to the point that I've had to decrease my head unit down to +3 from +5 to level off the sound. There is still a crappy head unit driving the speakers but I'm getting better sound each time I play so I must be doing something right!

Thanks for reading! I'll post an update when I've completed both sides.
24th October 2013 12:44
SilverCider
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Originally Posted by tom619 View Post
Dude,

How much would you charge to do my upgrades??
Hehe, if I had the space to accommodate another car whilst doing it, a few beers would do it! Unfortunately I don't.

In all honesty though, it really isn't a difficult job, just give yourself plenty of time. It's a little daunting at first but once you've had a crack at one door you soon realise that you can get the other side done much quicker and with a bit of confidence.
24th October 2013 09:43
tom619 Dude,

How much would you charge to do my upgrades??
20th October 2013 20:49
SilverCider Some footage of the upgrades in action:

(Understandably, it sounds to different in reality as it is recorded on my phone. The upper mids seem to be missing making for a hollow sound in the recording. Also, for some reason the recordings have come out very quiet so get your speakers/headphones turned up!)




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