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27th June 2019 08:46
RA108
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Originally Posted by Dazza3000 View Post
And it passed ! Different MOT guy this
Time and he said all was good !

Thanks for your help
Report the guy to the testing garage. He obviously has a personal issue with HID and that needs to addressed by the testing station. Threaten to report them to VOSA if they don't take some action to correct his behaviour.

Also, I'd ask for a refund of any re-test charge and for petrol / diesel in having to re-turn. You probably won't get the petrol, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Also, the more hassle you cause, the more likely they are to have a word with the bad tester.
26th June 2019 19:56
scaramanga im sure it was just a idiot who didn't understand they were factory fit and fully legal
but the beam pattern thing could have been discoloured lens
26th June 2019 19:47
Dazza3000 And it passed ! Different MOT guy this
Time and he said all was good !

Thanks for your help
26th June 2019 11:13
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by RickHondaR View Post
On the cheap hid bulbs the lens pattern markers burn off, its like a black finish on the glass hid lamp, my guess this has burned off causing the mot failure. Just buy a new set of cheap lamps or better quality lamps
Had them out and pattern markers seem fine refitted them and polished the outside ? Gonna take it back see what they say and if not I’ll take to Honda and see wat they say ? Can’t see anything wrong with it or different to last year ? Thanks for your help
25th June 2019 20:06
RickHondaR On the cheap hid bulbs the lens pattern markers burn off, its like a black finish on the glass hid lamp, my guess this has burned off causing the mot failure. Just buy a new set of cheap lamps or better quality lamps
25th June 2019 18:32
scaramanga you can talk to vosa
25th June 2019 15:47
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by scaramanga View Post
the law did change last year
but that is only for aftermarket hid's
factory fit are still legal and the guy in the garage needs to understend that

I had argument about it with a local garage as he kept saying my car was gonna fail and he was looking forward to failing all cars that went in as he hated hid lights
needless to say once he re read the new updates he had to admit he was wrong
but my car never went there for mot anyway
I argued with him about the bulbs as he tried telling me that he will never pass it due to the bulbs ? But I’ll polish the lens and check the bulbs are in correct and go back and see what they say and if I get no joy I’ll try another garage
25th June 2019 15:44
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Kremmen View Post
So it seems something is mis-aligned as the MOT beam tool is detecting something wrong.

But as above, 2007 EX did have HID's as standard.
I’ll check the bulbs are in correct as maybe that’s the problem ? Thanks
25th June 2019 15:43
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Skomaz View Post
might be worth checking whether the burners (bulbs) have ever been replaced and, if so that they are properly inserted and the securing screws tightened up. either could mean a misalignment that would be affecting the beam pattern.

Having said that the OE HID's in the civic don't have a particularly defined pattern anyway (and aren't actually that good) as they are reflector housings and not the more normal projector units that most HID lights have (that latter point might be why your MOT tester is suggesting they are a failure if he's not familiar with Civics).
They said they don’t deal with HID so I don’t think they know tbh and yeah I replaced the bulbs last year ? Was a horrible job to get in so maybe there not in 100% ? Is there an easy wat to get in to them ? Thavks again
25th June 2019 13:27
Skomaz might be worth checking whether the burners (bulbs) have ever been replaced and, if so that they are properly inserted and the securing screws tightened up. either could mean a misalignment that would be affecting the beam pattern.

Having said that the OE HID's in the civic don't have a particularly defined pattern anyway (and aren't actually that good) as they are reflector housings and not the more normal projector units that most HID lights have (that latter point might be why your MOT tester is suggesting they are a failure if he's not familiar with Civics).
25th June 2019 04:58
Kremmen So it seems something is mis-aligned as the MOT beam tool is detecting something wrong.

But as above, 2007 EX did have HID's as standard.
24th June 2019 22:35
scaramanga the law did change last year
but that is only for aftermarket hid's
factory fit are still legal and the guy in the garage needs to understend that

I had argument about it with a local garage as he kept saying my car was gonna fail and he was looking forward to failing all cars that went in as he hated hid lights
needless to say once he re read the new updates he had to admit he was wrong
but my car never went there for mot anyway
24th June 2019 22:28
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Ray_S View Post
They should work when the headlights are on and you wash the windscreen, if they don't then that's something else you'll have to fix as that will be another MOT fail.
I’ll check that tomorrow ! Thanks a lot for your help , think I will polish them up and try again and if not I will
Go to Honda to get proof that they are factory fitted

Thanks
24th June 2019 22:21
Ray_S They should work when the headlights are on and you wash the windscreen, if they don't then that's something else you'll have to fix as that will be another MOT fail.
24th June 2019 22:19
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Ray_S View Post
Thanks those are factory HIDs and you do have headlight washers.
Great I’ll polish them Up and try again and really ? Never seen the washers ? How do they work ? Thanks again
24th June 2019 22:16
Ray_S Thanks those are factory HIDs and you do have headlight washers.
24th June 2019 22:08
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Ray_S View Post
You can't upload photos directly as you are not a supporter.

You can however upload a photo to a site like https://imgur.com/ and post a share link on here.
Thanks - https://imgur.com/gallery/YrgYXVL
24th June 2019 22:02
Ray_S You can't upload photos directly as you are not a supporter.

You can however upload a photo to a site like https://imgur.com/ and post a share link on here.
24th June 2019 21:48
Dazza3000
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Originally Posted by Ray_S View Post
Any chance of a close up picture of one of the headlights and front end?

If it is an EX it should have factory HID's and washers, it is not uncommon that it could of been previously repaired with parts from a lower spec model.
Yeah but I might be being thick but how do I add
Photos ?
24th June 2019 21:42
Ray_S Any chance of a close up picture of one of the headlights and front end?

If it is an EX it should have factory HID's and washers, it is not uncommon that it could of been previously repaired with parts from a lower spec model.
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