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Phew, close call there!

Spooky as mrsF's Golf failed it's MOT yesterday with...a broken spring.

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Phew, close call there!

Spooky as mrsF's Golf failed it's MOT yesterday with...a broken spring.

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Brother in law's S140 merc recently failed as well with front o/s spring broken (not sure if vaguely held some responsibility due to when I replaced his brake pads, the trolley jack head got 'fast' in the small opening of the lower wishbone under which the car was supported. Had to use a bar and hammer directed through the spring to persuade the jack head back out)
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Phew, close call there!

Spooky as mrsF's Golf failed it's MOT yesterday with...a broken spring.

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The czech versions are better... Our 12 year old Octavia passed a couple of weeks back...
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How does a normal car on public roads break a coil spring, particularly one that's relatively new?

Only accident-damaged and rally cars break them surely?

Never had a spring go on me once, including my early years hooning around!!
That includes several years with a 1.8 Marina cornering on door handles!!

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Interestingly, a while back I ran a merc kompressor coupe. Its first mot I put through it failed on both front springs broken!

At the time I recollected while driving steadily over a series of speed bumps laid out along the road, I heard a distinct and pretty loud 'bang' from the font end. All subsequently seemed ok at the time , but pretty sure it was one of the springs letting go.
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How does a normal car on public roads break a coil spring, particularly one that's relatively new?

Only accident-damaged and rally cars break them surely?

Never had a spring go on me once, including my early years hooning around!!
That includes several years with a 1.8 Marina cornering on door handles!!

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Did'nt the marina's have leaves on the back and some kind of torsion bar arrangement at the front ( morris minor copy!)
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That's why the coils didn't break ....

Leaves on the back indeed, but never a problem despite nearly ripping the tyres off the rims!!

Marina inherited the already ancient Morris Minor suspension - great when it came out in 1948 - September Earls Court show.

Point was, I wouldn't expect any relatively new car to break a coil, link or anything else in 'normal public road use'.

Had it been on track days as well - that could have aggravated it?

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You have to be careful when buying to do research.

Buy a Merc etc and it seems it's assumed you're rich and can afford to be fleeced. I'm pretty sure when I looked up Merc servicing, it came it at over 650 just for a service, and parts were double Audi prices. Audi / VW do offer fixed price servicing / repairs like Honda on older cars. However, I'm pretty sure some other parts outside the fixed price repairs are more expensive from memory (a while since I looked). With Merc it's seems it's more bend over...
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Had it been on track days as well - that could have aggravated it?
I am wondering how that would adversely affect the springs. Surely a race track has a smoother surface than the average UK (non motorway) roads.
In my ignorance of these things, I would have thought that it was the large and violent deflections that the springs can receive on normal roads that were more likely to damage springs?
Unless of course you are talking about rally/rally-cross tracks where the latter obviously applies.
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All I was referring to was that the car's handling would have been pushed more towards it's limits and with 'total transfers' left-right-left on-the-limit - which is sometimes only approached on public roads, never consistently, like this - not safe, no run-off areas ...

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S'ppose at the end of the day its a matter of conjecture why a car's suspension coil spring should break.

Throwing in another example : My daughter decided to give up driving her Ford Ka, leaving me with it parked up on the front lawn till I could 'dispose' of it

Finally, after putting it on ebay, a trader bought it. On the day of collection I drove it onto the drive and the o/s rear collapsed-the coil spring broke

Before he arrived I'd popped over to my local parts people, picked up a spring for less than a tenner and had it on the car for when he arrived.

Wonder if it's cheap or reclaimed steel, although quality control you would think would be tighter than in days gone by?
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How does a normal car on public roads break a coil spring, particularly one that's relatively new?

Only accident-damaged and rally cars break them surely?

Never had a spring go on me once, including my early years hooning around!!
That includes several years with a 1.8 Marina cornering on door handles!!

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Coil spring failures are very common on virtually any car, particularly with the state of our roads nowadays.

They fail through fatigue, absolutely nothing to do with being in an accident. In fact you would be extremely unlikely to break a spring in most accidents.

Coil springs are almost without exception made by a spring manufacturer like Sachs, rather a car manufacturer,. You could buy an Audi or a Range Rover and potentially the springs might come out of the same factory as those in a Honda.
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