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Old 28th May 2010, 14:26   #1 (permalink)
 
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Toda Adjustable topmounts

Toda have just released a pair of adjustable Top mounts for the FN and FD2. They fit onto OEM shocks.

They retail at 250+VAT

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Are they for camber, caster or either ?



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They are for camber. You cant get enough with just the bolts and is a good alternative to aftermarket coilovers.
The Mugen suspension only uses the stock top mounts so these would be idea on them or any setups on stock shocks with lowering springs.
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Sorry to be thick but what do these do?
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Sorry to be thick but what do these do?
Can't you read? They are for car suspension camber angle adjustment
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They are for camber. You cant get enough with just the bolts and is a good alternative to aftermarket coilovers.
The Mugen suspension only uses the stock top mounts so these would be idea on them or any setups on stock shocks with lowering springs.
You say you cant get enough with the bolts alone ?
Are we talking fast road setup or race setup ?
Im really surprised the bolts arent enough.
What kind of angular deficiency is there ?

I have heard one guy on track here saying although his tyres are worn a lot more evenly after a fast road setup..they are still slightly uneven.
So it would be good for everyone to know the score



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Can't you read? They are for car suspension camber angle adjustment
...I'm sure what R555 meant was what exactly does that mean...all you've done there is just repeat whats said above
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For starters your replacing a rubber top mount with a rose joint so less movement = better.
Next is that enables you to dial in far more camber than you can with just fitting the excentric bolts. These could give say 4' neg where most you will see realistically with bolts is 1.5-1.7 if your lucky.

Actual restricting factor is the toe changes when you alter the camber so its a fine line to get good camber and still maintain a good toe setting. Ultimate is different track rods to be combined with the topmounts so you can adjust to what you want.
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Can't you read? They are for car suspension camber angle adjustment
Negative Camber is where the bottom of the tyre sticks out further than the top.
Positive Camber is where the bottom of the tyre sticks out less than the top.

Under extreme cornering the tyre walls flex and you start to ride on the outside of the tyre instead of full tread contact.
Increasing the negative camber fixes this and keeps 100% of the tyre contact patch planted on the tarmac for maximum grip.

Should be done in concert with the tyre pressures which adjust the tyre walls flex.

Pressures too high you'll just slide as theres no flex to dampen sudden turns.
Pressures too low you'll tramp and the tyre contact will deform.



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Thanks for the explanation guys...
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Yeh cheers guys very interestin
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Toda have just released a pair of adjustable Top mounts for the FN and FD2. They fit onto OEM shocks.

They retail at 250+VAT

What is the current price and availability on these?

From experience, rose jointed top mounts wear out quickly on the road, so are they easily replacable and an available part from Toda, if so how much are those (as I would probably want to keep a set handy).

Finally, can you just confirm again these are a straight fit ontop of the Mugen suspension kit?
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What is the current price and availability on these?

From experience, rose jointed top mounts wear out quickly on the road, so are they easily replacable and an available part from Toda, if so how much are those (as I would probably want to keep a set handy).

Finally, can you just confirm again these are a straight fit ontop of the Mugen suspension kit?
Hi Blade,

I can confirm that the price is valid, but not sure about compatibility with Mugen suspension.

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mark you said they were ideal for it on post #3 mate
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mark you said they were ideal for it on post #3 mate
That was Paul that said that (who knows more about this), but thanks for the "heads up"!
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They will fit.
Mugen shocks retain OEM topmounts.
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They will fit.
Mugen shocks retain OEM topmounts.
In stock? Who do I call to order?
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Any info with KW v3..?
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In stock? Who do I call to order?
Special order I'm afraid Blade

They can be bought from http://www.toda-europe.com and http://tdi-plc.com if needed.

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