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Old 18th October 2011, 10:26   #1 (permalink)
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Mugen M20 2.2 ……………..”Supercharged”

A little project we have been working on for some time.

Car came to us on the recommendation of a Honda Dealership as the place to go to get more out of the car. And we did. An awful lot more!

We put the car on the rollers and it made bang on 240bhp.
We then fitted a new ECU so we could retain the very rare M20 ECU and I could hook up the Flashpro and start to tune it.
Results with just a re-map were pretty impressive. Lower vtec yielded healthy midrange gains and we got a fair bit more power out of the car and it drove far more like mine for anyone that has experienced it will know.

We then fitted a CT supercharger.

Few days later and after long discussions we decided the next route to approach for security of the motor and to extract the best possible power with what we had was to lower the compression slightly but while the motor was apart it seemed rude not to do a few upgrades and build something totally 1off for a very special car.

What we now have is a custom forged 2.2 motor with what could only be described as a “*******ised” Toda 2.2 Stroker kit.
The crank has been re-worked to reduce the weight further, it retains the Toda I-beam rods but we have gone for Cosworth pistons which give us the required compression ratio. We also decked the block, ported and flowed the head matching it to the new Toda manifold and Supercharger intake plenum. We also installed Toda A3 camshafts, valve-springs chain and tensioner for good measure.

We are also running our TDi North boost by gear system to help get the power down and an oil cooler system we have developed for the FN2.

Cosmetic changes we fitted a Mugen Aero bonnet, side fenders and full rear bumper as well as installing the Mugen Assist gauges and a nice set of Takata harnesses.

Altogether it’s allowed us to put together what I would consider the “Ultimate” Type-R with the best parts available that only looks the part…goes like the clappers!

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Hate my life. Why? Because I don't own this car.
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Old 18th October 2011, 10:47   #3 (permalink)
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Yea but mine is cleaner lol!!

Insane project really! Best car out there though. Sounded mental on the dyno!
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Did I miss where you put the new dyno figures?
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My question is why?

Seeing as the M20 had a hand built Mugen engine from the factory, personally I don't understand why anyone would then want to rip it apart and change it.
(this is not a dig and Tdi North or the owner merely my own point of view)

Why not start with a M200 and then add the parts on?
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My question is why?

Seeing as the M20 had a hand built Mugen engine from the factory, personally I don't understand why anyone would then want to rip it apart and change it.
(this is not a dig and Tdi North or the owner merely my own point of view)

Why not start with a M200 and then add the parts on?
I also hate how the standard M20 just looks like an M200. For 38k I'd want some serious aesthetical differences!
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I also hate how the standard M20 just looks like an M200. For 38k I'd want some serious aesthetical differences!
For the bits youre getting the M20 is worth well in excess of £38k, yes, an M200 could possibly get as much power and possibly nearly as much cornering ability but quality, it doesnt come close .
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And the final mumbers are...??
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Still ain't worth 38k in my book. I sat in one a few weeks ago and was beyond underwhelmed.

Sure, it's mechanically brilliant, but I'd rather just get an M200 and spend the huge amount I've saved on a million penny sweets.
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My question is why?

Seeing as the M20 had a hand built Mugen engine from the factory, personally I don't understand why anyone would then want to rip it apart and change it.
(this is not a dig and Tdi North or the owner merely my own point of view)

Why not start with a M200 and then add the parts on?
As it said at the top on the OP, the owners had bought the car first then decided to go for more oomph!

The M20 is awesome, but 240bhp isnt alot in todays world is it.
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i think ive seen this one up close! power figures seem to be a bit hard to find....
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i think ive seen this one up close! power figures seem to be a bit hard to find....
Because they haven't been posted. Not everyone wants to publish what they have or even know what x, y or z dyno says as its sure to start more long debates about what you could have brought for the £££ that made more powers or who is better than who at tuning! Owners happy and that is all that matters to me.

If the owners want to post anything then its their choice.
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Love build threads.

Seen the car up close and you have to admire the owners vision and TDi's workmanship, it really is a great example of engineering excellence and i'm sure the car drives a dream. But have to admit to feeling slightly sad that an M20 was, for want of a better word, sacrificed for this to happen.

Bit like giving the Mona Lisa a facelift.
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Because they haven't been posted. Not everyone wants to publish what they have or even know what x, y or z dyno says as its sure to start more long debates about what you could have brought for the £££ that made more powers or who is better than who at tuning! Owners happy and that is all that matters to me.

If the owners want to post anything then its their choice.
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Because they haven't been posted. Not everyone wants to publish what they have or even know what x, y or z dyno says as its sure to start more long debates about what you could have brought for the £££ that made more powers or who is better than who at tuning! Owners happy and that is all that matters to me.

If the owners want to post anything then its their choice.
Ye, obviously forum members want to know but I suppose the only thing to note from this amazing project Paul and his team have undertaken is that it sounds amazing, goes like the clappers and handles like a go kart!
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no i agree its the owners call, i was verbally told but again not my place to share
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Bit like giving the Mona Lisa a facelift.
Even Mona had a bit of a 'tash lol
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Fantastic car but as mentioned by a couple of others feel a little sad an M20 was used. Obviously the owners perogative though and fair play.
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I love the car, looks the part and I am sure it's quite nippy. First time seeing those fenders in person, not too sure if it does anything in reality but I would love a set
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Looking good! Bloody stole my takata's tho!! lol

Any reason why you guys went for the stroker rather than K24 bottom? And also CT o er rotrex?
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