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Question Ep3 Fn2 or DC5??

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Haven't been on here in ages (since I sold my FN2 CTR GT for a Leon cupra R), but circumstances might mean a possible return the Honda R fold, but I have a slight dilemma in that I'm not sure which way to go (if indeed I do)

I'm currently running an A4 black edt via a PCP & my mid term is up in June this year and tbh I don't feel like borrowing/paying a further £18k to buy/keep the car so I'm 99.9% certain that I'll be handing the car back and walking away, and having a had a look around at what's available that's not boring & won't cost the earth either, I've more or less narrowed it down to one of the above 3 choices.

From my PoV (for each one)

EP3 - seems like the best "economical" choice as I'd be able to pick up either an older model pretty cheaply, or a very good one for not silly money!, problem is I'm not keen on the interior (dash really!), and I know I'd wanna spend £££'s on it to lower the vtec point etc etc, if I bought one - chances are it'd be a late model Premier edt (a mate has one and I like the recaros!), obviously it'd be an older car and as such would have all the foibles of buying "an older car" too.

FN2 - had one before and liked the looks of it, and the interior (to a point), loved the seats, didn't like the paintwork finish/quality or the silly firm ride (although I understand this can be improved via the eibach springs). If I bought one it would probably a later spec car, always quite fancied a champ white or even a mugen 200 (the LSD is just an added bonus!), but I know (with the champ white atleast) I'd want to add the Grand Prix pack, I'd deffo want an I pod connection and would also like it to have the reversing camera (mine had it and it got me out of a few pickles, was a great addition! Main issue with the FN2 is the cost of actually buying one (it'd be the most expensive as it'd be the newest!)

DC5 - Never driven one, but the reputation for handling alone is a big point for me, love the coupe looks, those recaros looks sweet, there probably the rarest of this trio which would be a nice little thing for me, but obviously there import only, I'd want the pre facelift version as I don't like the facelift (looks to soft on the front end)!, the interior looks rather bland (but it's by no means a deal breaker), and I know it's not the point either as its not that kind of car, not why I'd be buying it!, bit worried that getting parts/servicing and insuring it might be a PITA because of the whole import only thing, & most importantly I suppose is the money you have to shell out to get one that's not got lots of miles on one, but it's still an older car!

My (probably obvious) question to you guys is, which would you buy if you had this choice, and why?

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What is the car going to be used for, Daily drive, weekend fun etc?

5 years back I would have said DC5 all day but these days I like the extra's you get with the FN2.

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I see a Cw Dc5 daily and it's a stunning looking car still, from what I see it handles well and sounds very nice
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Depends what your priorities are?
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What is the car going to be used for, Daily drive, weekend fun etc?

5 years back I would have said DC5 all day but these days I like the extra's you get with the FN2.

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Good question,

Daily commute mainly, but yes, if the opportunity presents then weekend fun too (no track days though), just a good blast if the mood takes me!😎
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Based on daily driver, I'd vote FN2. If it were a weekend toy, DC5.
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I see a Cw Dc5 daily and it's a stunning looking car still, from what I see it handles well and sounds very nice
I used to see one round here too and always admired it, less so when it had a loud raspy exhaust whapped on it (not my thing), but that coupe shape coupled with that engine!😜

Must admit - for the money I'd probably plough into a Cw CTR or mugen 200 I could buy a very nice Leon K1 ( always liked them), but then I go back into the biggest issue I had with my Cupra R - axle tramp!! (Hated that!) The fn2 I had certainly felt more "chuckable" and you could rag it more without feeling quite so intimidated by the extra power that was so easily accessible with the Leon.
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FN2 as it's the most refined of the 3. I also looked at all 3 before choosing the FN2. From what I understand all of the FN2 Type R's after 2009 had the LSD not just the Mugens
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Look at Dc5 forums there's some very well kept low mileaged ones out there, save importing
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Look at Dc5 forums there's some very well kept low mileaged ones out there, save importing
Yeah I've been looking in pistonheads etc to see what kinda money each of the three are going for so I'm not worried about having to actually import a car as such, more that it IS an import so it will be harder sourcing parts etc (I would imagine anyway!)
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Yeah I've been looking in pistonheads etc to see what kinda money each of the three are going for so I'm not worried about having to actually import a car as such, more that it IS an import so it will be harder sourcing parts etc (I would imagine anyway!)
Doesnt the DC5 have the same type-r engine as the FN2? parts shouldnt really be that much of a problem with the increase of online shopping tuff choice tho
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Doesnt the DC5 have the same type-r engine as the FN2? parts shouldnt really be that much of a problem with the increase of online shopping tuff choice tho
Yeah you'll be fine with service and engine parts. DC5 is similar, except for cams, compression, intake manifold and I don't think it's DBW?
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Yeah you'll be fine with service and engine parts. DC5 is similar, except for cams, compression, intake manifold and I don't think it's DBW?
DBW?

Tbh I'm not so concerned about engine servicing as such with a DC5, more if it needs stuff like a new windscreen or any body panels or stuff that's more specific to the car.

Do you guys know though whether the DC5's can take regular 95 Ron fuel (just in case)??

Biggest stumbling block with the DC5 is age vs price vs mileage (as daft as that may sound!)
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FN2... then get the Eibach springs fitted with a FRSU.
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FN2... then get the Eibach springs fitted with a FRSU.
Frsu?
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Fast Road Setup... Transforms the handling of the car.

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Aha, sounds good!

How much of a difference to the ride quality do the eibachs make? Remember the fn2 being pretty damned firm! It definitely needed toning down
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I went from an FN2 to a DC5 (not my daily).

DC5 hands down for me.

As for parts, all mechanical parts (engine, brakes, suspension etc) are easy to get hold. That's OEM and aftermarket. There are a few popular breakers as well.

I've had a windscreen replaced due to a crack easy enough.

The only part I've struggled with getting was a front bumper. Delivery costs from Japan were crazy ( ~£500.00 delivered). I did manage to get hold of a 2nd hand one though. There are some good guys on ITR.DC5.COM.
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I went from an FN2 to a DC5 (not my daily).

DC5 hands down for me.

As for parts, all mechanical parts (engine, brakes, suspension etc) are easy to get hold. That's OEM and aftermarket. There are a few popular breakers as well.

I've had a windscreen replaced due to a crack easy enough.

The only part I've struggled with getting was a front bumper. Delivery costs from Japan were crazy ( ~£500.00 delivered). I did manage to get hold of a 2nd hand one though. There are some good guys on ITR.DC5.COM.
Cool, cheers for that, good to get some more info on the DC5 front!
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Coming back to the fn2 for a mo, can any of you guys tell me if any of the CW's or mugens were specced with nav, more importantly a reversing camera? I had those on my fn2 & it'd be something I'd like again if I go the fn2 route again!

Big ask I know!
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