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Does it have to have honda service history?

Found an ep3 i would like to go see.

Hard to tell from the pic on autotrader but looks like its had its services at different independant garages as opposed to honda history. Would this put you off.

Its a 80,000 miler 05 for 4500 with a new clutch fitted recently so im interested in viewing it. Also appears standard.
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i'm personally of the opinion that as long as it's been serviced then all is well... unless it's a more expensive car or something a little more special, and then i'd probably like it to have dealer or at the minimum 'independent specialist' history.

i'd go see it, if it drives well, and everything stacks up in your head and heart then buy her
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Many of the independents are as good or better than many of the Honda mechanics I reckon

For an 05 car I would be surprised to see full dealer service history.
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i'm personally of the opinion that as long as it's been serviced then all is well... unless it's a more expensive car or something a little more special, and then i'd probably like it to have dealer or at the minimum 'independent specialist' history.

i'd go see it, if it drives well, and everything stacks up in your head and heart then buy her
Ive always thought this, i mean surely they check what oil should be used anyway?

And different independants usually means less chance of forging the stamps etc
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I take my car to an independent specialist. I wouldn't be put off mate.
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What do you guys think of this ep3?

Seem ok??

Thinking of going up friday to look at it.

Only thing that bothers me is its had a cracked bumper (read description), does this mean its been in a crash?

http://www.mpsmotorsleeds.co.uk/used...01602100902260

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What do you guys think of this ep3?

Seem ok??

Thinking of going up friday to look at it.

Only thing that bothers me is its had a cracked bumper (read description), does this mean its been in a crash?

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Its just the grill thats broke, the bumper looks fine from the pics. Could have been hit with a stone on the motorway (from a lorry or that) you can text the regi to 83600 and youll get a text about if its been in an accident, number of owners, stolen, colour changes, valuation. It cost £3.50 I think tho https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ put in the regi number and honda and youll see a list of its old mots including advisories, mileage etc... you can get an idea how its been cared for previously

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Its just the grill thats broke, the bumper looks fine from the pics. Could have been hit with a stone on the motorway (from a lorry or that) you can text the regi to 83600 and youll get a text about if its been in an accident, number of owners, stolen, colour changes, valuation. It cost £3.50 I think tho https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ put in the regi number and honda and youll see a list of its old mots including advisories, mileage etc... you can get an idea how its been cared for previously
It was the grill that was replaced says it in description and i seen in the original pics there was a definite scuff/crack on the front right bumper

Also mot history looks really good, basically tyres and pads
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It was the grill that was replaced says it in description and i seen in the original pics there was a definite scuff/crack on the front right bumper

Also mot history looks really good, basically tyres and pads
The headlight was insecure on the mot in feb 2015, so if your going to view make sure you look for accident damage also the mileage goes up 2k a year in some mots (could be a new owner who hardly used it tho)
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Just found out it has had 6 owners, should i avoid?
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6 is a lot.... you could always ask the garage to see the paperwork, and get in touch with the previous owner.
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6 is a lot.... you could always ask the garage to see the paperwork, and get in touch with the previous owner.
Yeh 6 owners has put me off tbh
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Just found out it has had 6 owners, should i avoid?
Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but the number of owners doesn't put me off. You often find that performance cars have a higher turnaround of owners than non-performance cars.

For example, my car is a 2011 FN2 and technically I'm the 5th owner:

1st owner - Pre reg
2nd owner - Forum member
3rd owner - Forum member
4th owner - Non-forum member
5th owner - Me (Forum member)

So I'm the 5th owner, and when I bought the car it had just shy of 23k on the clock. In the last 2 years (of which I've owned the car just shy of 1 year) it has covered around 9k miles. From new it has covered an average of 5800 miles per year.

It has full Honda service history, bar the first service that was carried out at TDi North. I will be getting it serviced next week at Grinspeed as I prefer to use a local reputable specialist than pay through the nose for a Honda service - Each to their own though.

Some people may not use them as daily runners, whereas others just have short commutes to work, and little driving outside of work. A lot of people may only keep them for a short period because quite frankly they're a harsh drive (or at least that's how I find the FN2).

I've always wanted a Type R, but can I see me keeping mine long term? No. That's not a negative reflection on the reliability of the car - Quite the opposite. But mainly because I find the ride too harsh for a daily runner, and also because there are lots of cars out there that I would like to own, and I feel life is too short.

If somebody turns a blind eye to mine when I come to sell it, purely because it has had 5 owners in 5 years, then it's their loss. The car is the most reliable car I've ever owned with impeccable service and MOT history. I believe that the way a car is looked after is more important than the number of owners, but that's just my opinion.

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There is lots of debating about service history...

Personally I don't see why you need a Honda service history if you are planning to keep the car for a bit, taking it to a trusted garage is fine
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There is lots of debating about service history...

Personally I don't see why you need a Honda service history if you are planning to keep the car for a bit, taking it to a trusted garage is fine
Absolutely. For the average Joe looking to buy a car full dealer service history is appealing. But for car enthusiasts like ourselves, we appreciate that there are alternate reputable service options out there that are as good as (and in some cases better than) your local Honda dealership.
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o9n an 05 it's all about condition and quality of servicing, regardless fo where it has been done...
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Any history is better than no history and as long as it's been regularly serviced and ideally there are receipts for work rather than just stamps in a book then it's a good sign. Always worth looking at the obvious things like matching tyres on each axle, if it's got mismatched budgets all round there is a good chance the rest of the car has been maintained on a budget, also nice if it's got it's original number plates and they match front and rear, odd plates are usually a sign of a shunt, unfortunately this is usually hidden by the dealer fitting there own plates.
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I am about to have my car serviced but knowing a few mechanics in the local area I asked if they had heard what the Honda mechanics were like and had a couple of bad reviews.
I am now taking my car to an independant, although the mechanic used to be the forman for Honda. I am buy all the stuff I need from Cox and I personally dont see the problem.
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A service is a service. As long as the oils be changed when required it'll be fine. As for the number of owners, it wouldn't bother me. For me its always down to "has it been looked after?"
Get an independent inspection, yes it costs but if you plan on keeping her for a bit, it'll be well worth it as it will highlight any potential issues.
Check the alloys, if they are badly kerbed, it would be a concern also check they tyres, if they are an unknown cheap make, it says to me that's shes been ran on a budget.
Ask for a test drive with the radio off, ensure there are no groans from the suspension or steering rack or hesitation when accelerating and ensure the iVTEC kicks in. Ensure you take it lock to lock.
If the inspection comes back ok with no outstanding finance etc. go for it. Then get her a full service, detail wash and maybe some shiny new brakes.
Don't worry about a Honda history, you only have to have it serviced at Honda to keep the warranty, and in some cases an independent garage knows more about her than some bloke in Honda.
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Personally - i used to look for low owners and Honda history but then i realised that when i owned the cars i take them to garages i knew and trusted - which were never Honda, luckily 2 mates i knew from school own their own garages - so i trust them.
Also the 05 EP3 i had - was 4 years old when i bought it but had 5 owners -alarm bells rang - it was at a Nissan garage locally wit ha very good reputation, and it only 32k on the clock - i did the text check - which was fine - i test drove the car twice - listened and checked for all known issues - knotchy 3rd gear etc and everything was fine - so bought it - best car i've ever owned - oh how miss it - only got rid due to relationship break up and having to pay bills on a house etc
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