FD2 oil pump conversion - Civinfo
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 2nd March 2018, 16:10 Thread Starter
Supporter
 
Leejay-B's Avatar
 
Car: None
Join Date: 2nd April 2013
Location: Surrey, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 218
Thanked 121 Times in 120 Posts
iTrader: (3)
Garage
FD2 oil pump conversion

I'm considering an FD2 oil pump for the gains.

Can anyone advise on the following:-

1. Are vibrations bad?

2. Do I need timing chain as well (my car has 14,000 miles so seems a waste)?

3. Is this job easy enough for any competent mechanic, or do you really need to know a Honda K20 very well like the specialists?

4. Is the 5-10 bhp noticeable?

Thank you.
Leejay-B is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 2nd March 2018, 16:20
250bhp.... finally :)
 
musegroove's Avatar
 
Car: 08 CTR, Milano Red
Join Date: 2nd September 2014
Location: manchester GB
Posts: 4,272
Thanks: 136
Thanked 430 Times in 410 Posts
iTrader: (8)
Vibrations are fine after a couple of thousand miles.
It's not so much vibrations but resonates.

Chain isn't needed. Did chain at the same time as was coming up to 90k and it had to be taken off anyway. At 14k I wouldn't bother mate.

Easy enough but you NEED to plug the balancer shaft oil passage otherwise you'll have low oil pressure. I'd personally stick to a K20 specialist for this. There's so much to mess up like torqued bolts, sealing timing cover / sump properly etc. For what you'd save at an indie might bite you in the long run.

It's not so much the bhp gains it's the behaviour of the engine as a whole. Revs pickup and drop MUCH quicker. The car felt bloated after 7k, but afterwards it redlines far quicker IMHO

Last edited by musegroove; 2nd March 2018 at 16:22.
musegroove is offline  
Thanks to musegroove from:
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 2nd March 2018, 23:33 Thread Starter
Supporter
** Thread starter **
 
Leejay-B's Avatar
 
Car: None
Join Date: 2nd April 2013
Location: Surrey, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 218
Thanked 121 Times in 120 Posts
iTrader: (3)
Garage
I don't mind resonation too much, I find the FN2 very quiet and refined compared to my previous cars.

Vibrations are more annoying but it shouldn't be that bad as the oil pumps are in EP3s, DC5s and FD2s anyway.

If it did get that bad I could always remove one of the two engine mount inserts I have.

Good points about the specialist and getting it all exactly spot on.

I got a quote with grinspeed today, very knowledgable. He did say I don't NEED a chain at such low mileage but would advise one. This is because best practise is not to re tighten a chain after removal. It makes sense not to loosen and then re stress it. I won't need chain guides though as they are solid.

A bonus is that the valve clearances will be done saving 100. He did advise me that the FN2 oil pump was not just added due to being better for low oil and people not checking levels enough, but is also less likely to be starved from hard cornering. This is because it is located across the middle of the sump rather than one side. Although the FN2 version is still not good enough on track it is better than the FD2 version for oil pick up. So if tracking he advised sump baffle, and even with hard road use it would be a good idea.

I know what you mean about the slight bloated feeling 7k rpm plus, sums it up well. The dyno from tdi after this kit shows the gains are gradual from low revs, and therefore most significant at the top end.
Leejay-B is offline  
 
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 3rd March 2018, 07:28
250bhp.... finally :)
 
musegroove's Avatar
 
Car: 08 CTR, Milano Red
Join Date: 2nd September 2014
Location: manchester GB
Posts: 4,272
Thanks: 136
Thanked 430 Times in 410 Posts
iTrader: (8)
Forgot about the clearances, I paid Stevie to do mine then TDi did my pump the week after and got them done again as I didn't know.

True about the pump, Honda said they didn't trust British people to keep an eye on oil levels so adjusted the pump accordingly. Tegiwa have 10-15% off at the moment so best time to buy a CW baffle
musegroove is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 3rd March 2018, 09:57
Supporter
 
seejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: 30th May 2012
Location: essex uk GB
Posts: 1,070
Thanks: 25
Thanked 100 Times in 92 Posts
iTrader: (4)
i'm finding its a pig to get all the oil out on changes after the baffle install.
still worth having one though.
seejay is offline  
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 3rd March 2018, 10:03
250bhp.... finally :)
 
musegroove's Avatar
 
Car: 08 CTR, Milano Red
Join Date: 2nd September 2014
Location: manchester GB
Posts: 4,272
Thanks: 136
Thanked 430 Times in 410 Posts
iTrader: (8)
Apparently grinspeed or TDi file a little bit out to make draining easier. Mine was already done when it got fitted.
musegroove is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 3rd March 2018, 10:18
Supporter
 
seejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: 30th May 2012
Location: essex uk GB
Posts: 1,070
Thanks: 25
Thanked 100 Times in 92 Posts
iTrader: (4)
cpl racing fitted mine and that didn't happen. surprise, surprise!
seejay is offline  
Reply

  Civinfo > Civic Type R > Type-R

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Civinfo forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Your User Name is the name that appears by all your posts on the forum, and so should not be your email address.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FD2 Oil Pump BRM Type-R 118 3rd July 2019 19:46
P2646 HONDA VTEC Oil Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage, after FD2 oil pump instaled goa_party Type-R 17 1st May 2016 13:25
FD2 cam+oil pump or FD2 intake manifold+throttle body+cpl cai iamsan Type-R 11 22nd May 2013 19:14

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome