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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 13th July 2018, 15:51 Thread Starter
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No service history!

I could of sworn the advert from the car dealer said full service history but it's been about 3 months since I bought my Type R. It's done 104k miles and I was looking through old honda reciepts and mot certificates and couldn't find the service book. I rang the dealer they said it's not there so I rang Honda who checked the national database and it's never had a Honda service.

So either it's never been serviced in it's entire life or been self serviced/random garages from the 6 previous owners.

With it having 104k on the clock I'm a little worried now, any advice what I should do?

I know last month it started miss firing on 2 cylinders so I had the plugs changed (which fixed it) but other than that there is no history on it all.

I had a chat with another Type R owner the other day and he was asking if I had my valve clearances done and timing belt and this and that but I don't have a bloody clue
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I would go to a Honda dealer and tell them it's got no Honda history and would they give it the full works.

There must be some stuff that only franchised dealers know about and will check.

It'll cost, but peace of mind.


I doubt you will find the advert now to check the sales blurb.
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When you say it'll cost have you got a rough idea on the figure?
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It won't have a timing belt it's chain driven, even at that mileage it should be okay but like Kremmen says a Honda dealer will be able to give it a full health check.
Look at the dealer website since Honda do a fixed price service menu so you can get a rough idea of what to budget for.
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Id much rather see an independent service history, but im guessing your lacking that too? Personally just buy everything you need for a full service and do it yourself. Run it a month and do another oil and filter change. As far as main dealers go the only thing they do differently to independants is they flash the latest software updates too it, if any were available.
For what its worth I think a Full Main Dealer service history just means its cost someone a fortune for something they never actually got. Just bought the wife a new car, nothing special just a new Kia Picanto. Took the service deal with it, but as she only does around 3000 miles a year im already thinking of ways to mark the filters as I know the minute it goes it they will look at the mileage, laugh and stick it though the wash bay without even sticking it on a lift.
My Sister has an Audi S4 and you wouldn't believe the terrible service they get at Audi Dundee, its embarrassing for a premium brand, charging the prices they do!
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Scratch the top of the oil filter and mark the air filter with a felt tip pen on the element.
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Id much rather see an independent service history, but im guessing your lacking that too? Personally just buy everything you need for a full service and do it yourself. Run it a month and do another oil and filter change. As far as main dealers go the only thing they do differently to independants is they flash the latest software updates too it, if any were available.
For what its worth I think a Full Main Dealer service history just means its cost someone a fortune for something they never actually got. Just bought the wife a new car, nothing special just a new Kia Picanto. Took the service deal with it, but as she only does around 3000 miles a year im already thinking of ways to mark the filters as I know the minute it goes it they will look at the mileage, laugh and stick it though the wash bay without even sticking it on a lift.
My Sister has an Audi S4 and you wouldn't believe the terrible service they get at Audi Dundee, its embarrassing for a premium brand, charging the prices they do!
No there is no service history at all, I can see from previous Honda dealer reciepts its had new front brakes and pads, light bulbs and other bits and a refusal from a blowing exhaust but no service history. I wouldn't even know where to begin with getting everything I need for a full service and I am very far from being a mechanic so self service is a no go.

Looking at MOT history it passed everytime but the last 3 years had advisory on blowing centre section exhaust but the previous owner never fixed it. I have the print out to fix that at 333 from Honda dealer showing a diagram of it but previous owner didn't bother to do it. Not bothered about that though exhaust is minor just don't have a clue when it was last serviced.

This is a long shot but anyone up north west who can do the full service just et me know and give me a price I'll be happy for the peace of mind.
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Shame your so far, I could easily have serviced your car for you. One thing you will need to look into is that at 75000 they need the valve clearances check/adjusted. Your not far from TDi North, tbh id give them a shout and see if they can help you, from what i see on here what they dont know about the type r isnt worth knowing.
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Scratch the top of the oil filter and mark the air filter with a felt tip pen on the element.
Yea but my guess is it will be a cartridge filter(not looked yet) not a screw on one and air filters are something like 40k these days. I must check teh service book to see whats involved at 12 months.
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The chain will let you know when it needs doing.
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I had a similar issue when I bought my 08 Type S, the previous owner had had it Honda serviced until 2011, then there was no history from then on other than the yearly MOT checks I got online. I contacted the previous owner to ask them and they said they had it done at a local garage in Blackburn from then on, but after contacting that garage, they had no history either. I took it for a full service check over at Holdcroft Honda Warrington after explaining this and paid about 350, but as Kremmen says, was worth it for peace of mind I think.
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as your in Bolton, Take it to Grinspeed and get him to do everything and check it out..

won't cost you as much as the main dealer and will be a much higher standard of work.
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@UKNinja I had the same issue, had receipts for brakes but no service history. Must admit car was fine (maybe I was just lucky)

Giving it a full service will certainly put your mind at ease.
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If its peace of mind your after i would take it to a Honda dealer and give it a full service (about 300) then you know it has been checked over properly inside and out.
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As I've said before, Honda will know every nut & bolt that may work loose. Every corrosion spot to check and all manner of other things/quirks their cars need checking for.

I believe in getting them serviced by those in the know.

Independents may be very good at what they do but they don't have the in depth model specific feedback.
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I imagine that only a Honda dealer would be able to apply any software updates/fixes.
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As I've said before, Honda will know every nut & bolt that may work loose. Every corrosion spot to check and all manner of other things/quirks their cars need checking for.

I believe in getting them serviced by those in the know.

Independents may be very good at what they do but they don't have the in depth model specific feedback.
Sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Honda missed the corrosion spots on every one of my services with them. then claim there isn't an issue with the rusty roof...

Go with a reputable independent who knows these cars. I drive over an hour to get mine serviced now by Grinspeed.
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There are 2 separate issues here.

The Honda service and the corrosion checks.

I stand by having services carried out by knowledgeable dealers with access to service bulletins. The roof issue wasn't known about until quite a few years after, but once it was known getting it fixed foc was a lot easier with a FHSH.

I agree that indys can change oil and filters cheaper but that's not all a service entails. They, afaik, don't have access to Hondas MARIS system.

What I won't to is post that your view is 'utter rubbish', not nice.
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There are 2 separate issues here.



The Honda service and the corrosion checks.



I stand by having services carried out by knowledgeable dealers with access to service bulletins. The roof issue wasn't known about until quite a few years after, but once it was known getting it fixed foc was a lot easier with a FHSH.



I agree that indys can change oil and filters cheaper but that's not all a service entails. They, afaik, don't have access to Hondas MARIS system.



What I won't to is post that your view is 'utter rubbish', not nice.


Im yet to find a knowledgable dealer.. the roof issue they denied, even when i produced the bulletin. The AC issue I had they just regassed it and said it needed a new compressor, when it all it needed was a 26 relay.. which I bought from their parts department and fitted myself.

Id much rather have someone who maintains hondas of all types to a very high standard.. NSXs S2000 anything with a K20 etc... who has the experience and special knowledge and tools, work on my car.

Main dealers arent that good. If im going to buy a performance car and see it has been looked after by a specialist rather than a standard dealer Id feel much better buying that car.


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