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Wandering EP3 - what to check?

Right my friends, I'm getting a bit fed up of my tramlining/bump steering car.
I'm going to investigate tomorrow and can confirm there are no rattles, knocks, clunks or bumps. Tyre wear is even and I have tried different tyre pressures.
One thing I am thinking may not be helping is that I have made the car quite stiff, I have a JDM rear arb which is definitely an improvement, a bigger boot brace, a C Pillar brace and a front strut brace. Perhaps the car needs a bit of flex and I should remove the front brace?
I also have aftermarket alloys but the offset is the same as oem, they stick 6mm in on the inside and 6mm out on the outside.

I am going to check the following -

All suspension bushes, tie rods, ball joints.
Steering rack for play.
Top mounts.
Shock absorbers for leaks.
Drop links and arb mounts.
I had some cheapish drop links put on the fronts when I had my clutch fitted (forget to take my Meyle HD with me) perhaps I could swap them out.

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They just do. Mines the same. The rack is seriously crap.

Roll centre adjusters help with the bump steer though and make it a bit smoother
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Are they ok to stick on a non lowered car? Been thinking of those and some inverted tie rod ends
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Are they ok to stick on a non lowered car? Been thinking of those and some inverted tie rod ends
Oh right you haven't lowered it. Pointless then.

They just do wander cos the rack is so crap and notchy.
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Oh right you haven't lowered it. Pointless then.

They just do wander cos the rack is so crap and notchy.
Rack raiser or slider worth doing? I understand that the rack can twist which causes bump steer. I can feel the steering wheel going light then binding (not badly), some rack rub by the sound of it
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Rack raiser or slider worth doing? I understand that the rack can twist which causes bump steer. I can feel the steering wheel going light then binding (not badly), some rack rub by the sound of it
Rack raiser is just another corrective measure for lowered cars so no point. Could change the slider but probs won't make any difference. The electric motor can sometimes get tired and feel heavier one way over the other but unless you get new it's not really worth it. Genuinely is just something you have to get used to on ep. Has to be one of the most pants steering racks ever made
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My previous one wasn't as bad. I'll check for loose stuff, leaks, worn bushes etc. Might stick the velocity stack on the end of the Injen CAI whilst I'm at it
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most common cause of tramlining and wandering on all cars is the tyres
sometimes just poor tread pattern
sometimes the tyre size being miss matched to the car
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most common cause of tramlining and wandering on all cars is the tyres
sometimes just poor tread pattern
sometimes the tyre size being miss matched to the car
Yeah, find the ep is super sensitive to tyre choice.
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I've got AD08Rs, they are 215/45/17, oem are 205/45/17.
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Same as mine. But yeah mine does wander. Refurbed rack, fully poly bushed, coilovers the lot.
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Checked the car over this morning and all seems fine, OSF wheel has a tiny bit of left to right movement. Took the front strut brace off and I'll whack 34psi in the fronts, see how it goes.
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Have you checked the alignment. Mine was tramlining just after I bought it new and when I got it checked the wheels were toeing in by 6 degrees. It was like I was driving a snow plow. The garage said they had never seen alignment so bad from the factory.
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I'm getting it done Wednesday, along with camber bolts, camber arms, hardrace track rod ends and frsu
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Ball joints? See if there is any play in them.
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They look fine, no play either.
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