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Hks vs cpl Cai

Looking at these, I don't have a remap or flashpro as of yet just wondering what the pros and cons or each system are ?
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HKS

easy install
good noise
easy to clean/replace filter

Some need mapped
Reports of heatsoak


CPL

Good noise but less in your face than HKS ( a pro for me personally)
Cold air feed


Some need mapped
Bit more work to change filter
You can't drive through 2 foot deep floods


Depends what your after fella, it won't hydrolock unless you deserve it, unfortunatley the MAFs in our cars are very senstive and the only way to be safe is to have a closed box set up
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

Will the cpl give the same sort of feeling as when on a cold day engine seems livelier and more potent ? Bhp differences with the two ? I also do like a bit of noise
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Because the source of the CPLs air is low down it should always be lively, even more so on cold days.

Depends on supporting mods

both sound awesome
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Hks vs cpl Cai

I've had both. Prefer the CPL but a tad unfair as I didn't have remap with the HKS and flatspot was annoying.
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

I've read that there maybe flat spots with the Cai without a remap ?
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yea i said above some need mapped, same as HKS
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Hks vs cpl Cai

I have a MAP tune on my car. Not sure what difference that makes.
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It disables the MAF so you don't have to recalibrate it for the flatspots.

Much easier to tune
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

Would I need the fog intake garnishes to benefit more from the cpl
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

Sorry about all the questions finding it hard to choose
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Hks vs cpl Cai

It gets enough cool air as is I think. I have scoops ready to install but purely cosmetic. The filter sits above the fogs quite a bit.
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No it breathes fine without them
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Hks vs cpl Cai

Another plus with battery relocation on CPL is it easier to change the bulbs!
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

It's also cheaper !
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Hks vs cpl Cai

You got flash pro?
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Re: Hks vs cpl Cai

Nope, that's why I was a bit cautious about the cpl
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I've had CPL, HKS, and Mugen. All are good kits but the CPL CAI is my fav every day

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/cpl-rac...iew-fn2-4.html

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/type-r/...omparison.html
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Only really worth getting the HKS if your running it with a heatshield otherwise things will get pretty hot during the summer.

I had the HKS and it ran fine on stock map as the piping is the same shape and length as stock and is velocity stacked and doesnt mess with the MAF sensor in a big way. The CPL almost certainly will and I would run this only with a remap(and preferably a MAP based tune).

The CPL will give better gains however when done right, but the HKS is more flexible.
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(and preferably a MAP based tune).
Why? It works fine on MAF based tunes. I've driven a few that are MAF based and it works fine.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/cpl-rac...ke-tuning.html
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